Friday, June 17, 2005

Carman Licciardello

231 Comments:

Blogger Andrea said...

My comment to the post I wrote is another subject. I started reading the movie script for Carman's novel titled, "Undefeated in Love and War." Just 10% into the script I can say in two words, "action packed." I promise to post my review of the movie script shortly. If I am not mistaken he is doing the movie sometime in the near future. Go for it Carman!

4:06 PM  
Blogger Andrea said...

I found out for a fact that Carman got married on January 8, 2004. As a partner with his ministry I am a bit miffed that he told us nothing. However, I would not say he sinned. Maybe God told him to do it.

God told Hosea the prophet to marry a prostitute named, Gomer. I am not going to judge Carman. I have always had a good opinion of him. He needs friends and prayer now more than ever.

If God did not tell him to marry her then he was just plain stupid. Stupidity is not a sin dah.

7:45 PM  
Blogger Andrea said...

Carman's album House of Praise is awesome. He seems to have no concerts booked for July. Wonder what he will be doing hahaha. There is some talk about him doing a movie and a TV series sometime soon. Pray for him to be kept from deception and also for he and his possessions to be sealed in the blood of Jesus. Pray for God to give him wisdom for every decision he has to make both now and in the future. Remember that something good is going to happen to you today. Expect a miracle!

11:19 AM  
Blogger Andrea said...

Well here I am talking about my favorite subject Carman. I guess I am a bit weird. Weirdness is being peculiar and as a child of God I am one of many peculiar (weird) people hahahaha.

As a matter of fact my honies Carman will be chatting in his chat room tonight. Yea 6/28/2005 at 8.30pm-9.30pm Caentral time. Be there or be square. It is free for guests -everyone that is interested- tonight. You can get into the free chat by logging onto www.carman.org. You can ask him all your questions. He can only answer a certain amount anyway.

Let me leave with a scripture for you all. "Whoever loves his brother lives in the light, and there is nothing to make him stumble." 1 John 2:10 NIV

10:39 AM  
Blogger Andrea said...

My previous comment had wrong information. Carman chat tonight is not free. 6/28/2005. So sorry!

4:28 PM  
Blogger Andrea said...

Carman latest album should be released in the fall. It is titled "Carman: Reloaded." As for me, I am looking forward to hearing it.

Jesus loves you and gave his life for you. Please show Jesus you love him by loving your brothers and sisters in the Lord. Believe me, it is a choice you make. The greatest love known to man is stated in John 3:16. Meditate on that scripture and choose to practice Agape love today. Luv you!

2:04 PM  
Blogger Andrea said...

Well Carman World Outreach is extending love to those who are interested. The next chat with Carman is free and will last for two hours. The time and date will be published on this blog.
Remember this nugget of wisdom, " A quitter never wins and a winner never quits." A Godly nugget to meditate on is this. "I can do all things through Christ who strengthens me." Phillipians 4:13

7:48 PM  
Blogger Andrea said...

To take part in the free chat session with Carman just log onto www.carman.org on September 20, 2005 at 8:30 PM to 10:30 PM Central Standard Time. Be there or be square! Ponder on these scripture verses!

"Dear friends, let us love one another, for love comes from God. Everyone who loves has been born of God and knows God. Whoever does not love does not know God, because God is love." I John 4:7,8 NIV

We know that as long as we pray according to God's will he shall do it. Every promise in the Bible is His will.

"If you believe you will receive whatever you ask for in prayer" Matthew 21:22 NIV

"And receive from Him anything we ask, because we obey His commands and do what pleases Him." I John 3:23 NIV

So couple obedience to God with faith and be a winner at praying. Luv you all!

12:02 PM  
Blogger Girard said...

Andrea one more thing, he was more than just stupid. You don't marry the wife of a long time friend and then get an anullment, well, try to.

God hates divorce and Carman knew better than what he did. How do you think that Mario Murillo feels about his wife of 23 years hooking up with Carman and them sleeping together and then all of the unChristian things that happened or were "done"?

Like Carman paying Rose hundreds of thousands to give back the name Licciardello (which you spelled wrong) and to silence her from writing a book about him and his problems? How about having his secretary (Jada?)calling her at home and telling her to pack her things and leave?

You are in la la land and Carman, should not be doing TV without his wife by his side who has an anointing from God that is real.

There is still something very wrong with this picture and you are really glossing over serious issues and serious dynamics.

Stick up for Jesus and remember that God does judge His people at times. Don't insult the Lord who is Holy and His word, by referring to what Carman did as merely stupid. He hurt people and a lot more.

12:09 AM  
Blogger Andrea said...

Girard, I am speaking from my frame of reference. I am just a partner in Carman's ministry and also his friend. The spelling of his name is a typo. I will leave judgment of Carman to God. Actually Carman's side kick's name is "Vada." If you are speaking the truth I have been enlightened. I choose to pray for Carman because of what happened. He needs prayer.

9:48 AM  
Blogger Andrea said...

In April of 1990 I took my brother's teenage daughters and his stepson to a Carman concert at Nassau Colosieum in Long Island, NY. My stepnephew named, Ian, said to me, "Auntie Andrea I had fun. It is the first time I have had fun in church." I never forgot his statement. He was about 15 or 16 years old at the time.

Ian's statement in 1990 caused me to continue to support Carman's ministry. However, The chat room and Vada has insulted me so much since 2003 that it is hard for me to send money at this time. I am waiting for damage control to be done by the ministry.

Nevertheless, the importance of such a ministry is not diminished in my eyes. I pray for them still.
My conscience is clear and there are other ministries for me to support. I am not and never was a groupie. I am too old for that. I am just an old fashioned christian woman who was never accepted by the chatters nor Vada.

If you have never been hurt by them don't be turned off by what I said. It is between them, me and God. Sort of personal. My heart is big enough to continue loving them. WWJD?

2:37 PM  
Blogger Andrea said...

There will be a Carman concert in Augusta, Georgia on August 18 at 7 PM. Call 706 651-1971 for directions, venue and further details! God is still with Carman. He promised never to leave him nor forsake and He has not. So if you live in the Augusta area, "Be there or be square."

12:02 PM  
Blogger Andrea said...

There is a Carman concert in Tallahassee on 8/19/2005. Call 850 350-2020 for details! Let there be a bridge of love extending from the blood washed church to the world. Love is so important for revival. When we love we forgive. Let us meditate on I Corinthians 13 and be a doer of the Word! Luv u all!

11:16 AM  
Blogger Andrea said...

Carman will be in Denver, Colorado on 8/23/2005. Call 303 455-5622 or 303 743-9747 for details!

10:43 AM  
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3:42 PM  
Blogger Andrea said...

I am having difficulty logging onto www.carman.org so I will be at a standstill with any information I have about Carman World Outreach. Nevertheless, I have information on other subjects especially Jesus that I will be sharing.

You might have already guessed that I am an affiliate reseller with click bank. It is all in an effort to earn some extra money. Anyone can join with them for free using http://faithinact.reseller.hop.clickbank.net It is all about infiltrating the world system with the message of Jesus Christ.

11:57 AM  
Blogger Andrea said...

Remember to log on to www.carman.org at 10:30pm central time for free chat with Carman. It will last for two hours. See you there!

12:14 PM  
Blogger Andrea said...

Tonight 9/20/2005 is free chat with Carman. Chat starts at 9:30 EST. However, log on one hour earlier to post your questions. Log on to www.carman.org and click on at bottom of screen to take part in free chat. Love you all!

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8:36 AM  
Blogger Tamy said...

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7:58 PM  
Blogger Tamy said...

Today I am very unhappy sense, my heart is despedaçado, I feel so much sadness that comes the hurt, believed in a dream and woke having a nightmare, q believed could fly, and feel the wind in my face, believed he could reach as high flight and incredibly believed in the impossible, it becomes possible ... There is no perfection in anything in life nobody We injuring the holiness of God the purity of it is always stained with our mistakes, failures and sins, and he in his infinite misericordia in perdoando always and always . I do not understand what kind of church is this q he will seek. Says it is a church without mácula without stain. This is the church that we are told? ? Today I feel ashamed before him, I feel very small in front of this infinitely be endowed with pure love that eternal greatness that is always ready to resort even having to endure so much pain caused by our weaknesses, our dirty and rotten meat. Today I am ashamed to have to confess that I am guilty by much sadness released on his face. Noting the error of my brother, I see no difference from my mistakes ahead of what is to essencia pure holiness is all equal, the dirt of my brother is no different from my lie of my lacivias and fornicações. Is everything trapo of imundícia is so that we are all facing the EU GRANDE SOU. That God in his goodness and misericordia that renews itself every day, look to your church and spill the blood of Jesus on each of us, that this blood upon each so unique and special, and before we look at the mistakes we must look to our next high-pro and see what our mistakes proprios is causing front of those who depend on us to hear and see the wonders of the good news of the gospel. May God have mercy on his church

6:35 PM  
Blogger honest_person said...

do you know about the blog factnet.org and charts and graphs carman a little bit o conviction, (the november page) go down to the number of posts and click onto the one that has more than 2000 posts. go all the way to the bottom where it says newest in small font and click on that to find the most recent blogs.

https://www.blogger.com/comment.g?postID=114653237350872968&blogID=10231932&isPopup=false&page=13

AND

http://www.factnet.org/vbforum/forumdisplay.php?f=524

there is information or rumors about carman having an affair with a woman from russia who is new age and a phony and whose name is oksana.

she made her myspace private after people held her accountable for nudity and inappropriate images and narcissisitic thought etc.

andrea sorry you were hurt by vada. she is a tool. really a weird human being and compromised and vain.

sorry you were hurt by carman marrying rose and all the game around it.

you sound like you have a really good heart. and that you try to put the Lord first. kudos and respect for that.

hope you are more clear on carman. the real carman.

peace

7:13 PM  
Blogger jcreif said...

I just have to say that Carman has a myspace account and he has naked girls on his myspace and not only that but he's had folks come on his myspace with satanic pictures on it and plus he can't sing and if you notice him hosting on TBN he always complains about anounited prophets and comes against them and everytime he sings some of his songs he lost his anouniting if you read what happened to Damson and Deliah when she cut off his hair and Samson lost his anouniting well thats what happened with Carman he lost hsi anouniting and he has been having speaking enagements at churches!!! So be praying for him

5:58 PM  
Blogger light and salt said...

carman is a mean person who lies to people to get his way. he accuses people of being stalkers if they try to give him prophecy or correct him even if a godly caring spirit.

he is secretive and that is not good Christian character and its manipulative.

we stopped liking him a long time ago. still pray for him and still wish him God's best, but he is not, absolutely not the person he presents.

who knows why the crouches have been so wrong about him in a certain way. then again God is always waiting for and drawing us to repent.

carman would be AWFUL to be married to based on his antics and his italian mafiosa mentality which never flies on TBN and people say to him things, we are not from Rome but Jerusalem which is God's city.

he isn't trustworthy from what has been said and based on things he has done.

wouldn't be nice if was the kind of guy who said what is true about himself and if he went to therapy and was transformed so he could be a better potential mate. and a better person.

but he lies and manipulate so much apparently that therapy wouldn't make much difference anyways. there isn't any character development where there is deception.

carman is not a good person in many ways. but with Christ he can grow and change and face himself instead of acting arrogantly or as though he is a victim.

victim acts are entirely gross and a form of domestic abuser character.
be careful what you do to your own character as it is largely a choice.

Bible character is possible.

wouldn't it be nice if carman went into men's prisons and ministered for a couple of years and if God could use him to stop the islamic influence that is building there.

pray for carman but don't let your daughters marry him or even date him. unless.....

7:32 PM  
Blogger Doug said...

I'm here because someone asked me to come here with some information about a stalker that has hurt Carman's family...please read below.
Carman's mother was recently hospitalized due to one of Carman's stalkers contacting her relentlessly. She became extremly stressed out to the point she was rushed to the hospital. The name of the stalker is Charlene Newman of CDC ministries or www.cdcministries.org. I'm asking everyone to contact her and ask her to leave Carman's family alone
Thank you for your time

9:10 AM  
Blogger Gwyneth said...

The Carman I knew personally in the 80s is not the Carman of today. Perhaps he was never the man I believed him to be. The recent facts point to that being true. We were friends in the 80s and he invited me to tour with him as I was in the gospel music thing back then. In front of many, many witnesses at Lakewood Church of Houston in 1985 he said that I would be his wife...he literally pointed at me and said 'my wife'. Needless to say, he became stubborn and wilfull over a trivial matter involving praise dancers that were a part of my ministry. He did not want them on tour. I did not want to just dump them off. This ended our relationship and he would never speak to me again.Funny, today he claims he is the first Christian to use praise dancers...not true! I am not the first nor will I be the last woman to suffer his fickle ways. When I met him he was departing from a relationship with actress Crystal Bernard. In an interview in the early 90s she said a certain man that she loved deeply turned out to be selfish, stubborn, and did not love her. They broke up and he broke her heart. I can relate, and who knows how many other women who came into his path. he appears very sweet at first but if he does not get his way or he feels you have crossed him, he will dump you without explanation. I went on with my life, very hurt. Now I see that the Lord spared me from being this man's 'wife' in spite of Carman's own words that this would be so.Last year he happened to be in Phoenix so I thought I'd check it out. His voice is shot. He begs for money after ten minutes of weak and nonsensical 'preaching'. He said things from the pulpit that were shockingly inappropriate. The man actually held up his own wallet from the pulpit and asked for money, as God is my witness. He did not even begin to fill the room to capacity, and I saw five speaking/singing engagements over the course of the week he was in Phoenix. I did not see any of the so-called legions of gorgeous women who follow him at these churches. Most of the people seemed mildly bored. I gave him a letter, asking for closure. To date, he has ignored me. TBN is the worst career move he could have chosen. The blogs I have read, and there are so many of them, don't really surprise me. After over twenty years of no contact, here's this weird unknown man and all of these blogs. I can only conclude that the truth finally came out circa 2004 but this is who he was much, much earlier on, when his first fans thought he was a real minister. Lord help him to find the way.

10:40 AM  
Blogger Gwyneth said...

There will be folks who read my comments and will disbelieve that their Carman could be such a lout. If this offends anyone, so be it. I have published what is true. It took over twenty years to get closure about this man, albeit not from him. After seeing him in Phoenix in November 2008, I began to research and found all of the blogs, the marriage, the allegations, etc. So the Lord finally answered me in a roundabout way as to what/why/how this could have happened to me with Carman. I am just one of who knows how many. Sad, because he actually had talent at one time but now is a door to door beggar.

10:49 AM  
Blogger Gwyneth said...

Just today was reading a blog about Carman. There are so many negative observations that it's disheartening and I cannot seem to get over what has become of this person since I knew him in the 80s. One blogger wisely observed that Carman displaced (set aside, turned from) the true wife the Lord sent to him years ago. I could not help but wonder, since Carman and I were such a match in every way. Now both of us are unmarried, unfulfilled in any relationship of true Christian merit with a beloved marriage partner. My own life mirrors Carman's in that I have had a series of really bad encounters and disappointments. I did not walk away from him when he was 29...he displaced me. A gift from God can be turned down. The consequences have left us both....alone. He has his aged mother and some die-hard groupies. I have disappointment with God and a big ?????? about how this could have happened. Isn't God Omnipotent? There has never been a real match for me since the 80s, just a lot of men I waded through who were not fit Christians or even right for me. I suffer and no one knows who I am or cares. Carman did not even have the grace to call me and apologize after over 20 years. I know that after he read the letter I put in his hand last November, and listening to the CD of my music (which he well knew) that he would have to remember me. I am blond now and older but still look the same, very athletic and trim. So I would have to say as one who knows firsthand that he is one hardhearted blue meanie. I hope he reads this. I emailed him at his ministry and he has roundly ignored me. I have no fanasies of a reconciliation; an 'I am sorry this happened, forgive me' would do just fine. I have to conclude, unhappily, that the bash blogs contain a 95% element of truth about this man.

11:46 AM  
Blogger Dougie said...

Carman married
Jessica Simpson

11:18 AM  
Blogger Dougie said...

Gwyneth,
you sound just like a million other women who claim that God sent you to be Carman's wife. How's this for an answer, God didn't send anyone to be his wife...wtf is wrong with all of you? lol. It's not even in the bible, yet all you women believe you are 'the one' lol...how funny

12:36 PM  
Blogger Gwyneth said...

Look Dougie baby, you are all wet, especially using WTF on a Christian blog. Would not surprise me if you are associated with Carman's lame 'ministry'. I am not some middle-aged granny fantasizing and posting lies. I knew Carman and had personal interaction with him during the 1980s. What I have posted is totally factual. He said what I said he said, in front of many witnesses. He keeps himself in hot water with women by being a jerk.
I posted my experience with the man hoping the disenchanted women who think he's a hero would read a post from someone who actually knew the guy and got messed over by his fickle, mean ways. I recently just met a national sign language interpreter at my bible study. She was asked to sign for one of his concerts (for no pay of course) in the 90s but declined because of the rude handling she received by his manager(s). She is not infatuated with Carman, never was, was just trying to do a job. So her testimony is also that there is something amiss with the man's ministry, although she never met him. He was around Houston alot in the 80s and 90s but really no one wants him around here anymore. So Dougie, are you Carmie? Now all you can get is Beaumont and Baytown gigs at little dinky fellowships that you talked your way into. Don't think I'll be coming to see you this time. November in Phoenix was enough. Your new scam to get into churches is really bottom of the barrel. You're over.Face it.

10:58 AM  
Blogger Gwyneth said...

P.S. Dougie....If I were Charlene Newman, who you allege stalked Carman's mother to madness, I would SUE you for defamation of character for posting what you posted. YEAH RIGHT..."Someone" told you to post this libelous information about Charlene on an obscure blog, and you are silent about your source. This equals hearsay. I am sure Carman can address Charlene himself without your help. That's assuming what you posted against this woman is true. You sound like a total fruitcake.

11:13 AM  
Blogger Gwyneth said...

To Light and Salt: The Crouches are not wrong about Carman....they are just like him that's why he fits in so well on TBN, the network of apostates.

4:06 PM  
Blogger Charlean said...

Gwen please email me its urgent....char@cdcministries.org.....Thanks

8:47 AM  
Blogger Doug said...

lol

9:57 PM  
Blogger Doug said...

u r offended that i say wtf on a christina blog but u are all sitting here talking about someone? lol. spend time with god instead of obsessing over this man

9:58 PM  
Blogger Doug said...

u need to all pray

9:59 PM  
Blogger Karen said...

All of you out there saying that Carman is married, I don't know where you get your information from, but it is WRONG! I know Carman personally and he is not married and never has been. He didn't say anything because it NEVER HAPPENED! If you want to say that he's married, tell the truth! That's he's married to doing what God has called him to do! You might want to confess your sin to God about gossiping!

12:57 PM  
Blogger Priscilla said...

Doug, you are definitely associated with Carmanin some capacity, or just a minor troll. Number one: no one is gossiping or obsessed. Carman has long been discredited and now has to use MySpace and Facebook because he no longer has a real base of believers who find him credible or edifying. His MySpace page is a real joke; he tries to look hip and hop and twenty but the photoshopping is so obvious and he comes off as worldly and ridiculous at age 54. Also, his MySpace 'friends' area, once you get past the initial first page, is a porn shop. His latest ploy, this alleged illness, is to make money and get attention. He asks everyone in his pathetically transparent message to email a woman named Elaine and gives her yahoo address. Reason for this is that they are both involved in Visalus, a multi-level marketing scheme. They hope to garner many people 'under' them, ergo, they will make a ton of up front money from the gullible, and the gullible will make nothing. It is all a money making scam on the part of Carman. I for one have a problem believing that no doctor can diagnose his alleged illnesses. He has everyone praying for him, LOL!!! He needs to repent, pure and simple.
I also can see that his pages and pages of photos and comments from 'fans' on Facebook and MySpace are mainly bogus posts put up by.....himself. He has no credibility with genuine born again believers, his record sales are in the toilet. But he is, so he believes, very clever, and is preying on nominal 'Christians' to buy into his stale baloney. He is sick alright.....in the noggin. Believers have a RIGHT TO EXPOSE PHONIES.

9:48 AM  
Blogger Priscilla said...

P.S. It is ironic that this blogspot falls directly under his pitiful illness story links. Many will see the comments on this blogspot and hopefully think twice. Karen, there is enough evidence pointing to a January 2004 marriage and annulment that you must also be one if the blind and the lame!

9:52 AM  
Blogger Priscilla said...

ALSO, DOUG......Carman's mother was contacted relentlessly by this alleged stalker, so much so that she was hospitalized? Doesn't she know how to use call block on her cell phone or change her number or how to use email address block or to call the cops? She needed you, the big kahuna, to post this stupid and libelous garbage to help her out? Likely it was due to her being ancient that she was hospitalized, if your dumb post is even the truth.

10:02 AM  
Blogger Deanna said...

I know who Doug is.....Lisa Amlicare, Aka...Lisa.Piatt on Myspace...... and The one first post was from Carman himself earlier.....Also..... Karen, Carman canceled concert tours last month to get engaged to a woman and she placed on her facebook a picture of the 7 carrot dimond ring he gave to her..... and he told all his fans it was because he was sick he canceled. Her name is Keli Miller. Go look into that she owns a tanning salon in SC called Solar Tan, a bunch of so called stalker women, aka women Carman has dated and Carman is now calling stalkers, have gotten in touch with this woman and she still believes every word he says about all these other women being stalkers. They aren't stalkers they are women that know about everything going on that he is pulling and they have spoken up about it. He is even still on facebook and myspace trying to "hook up" with any "cute" woman he can and he is engaged.

Go ask him about that.

8:05 PM  
Blogger Deanna said...

I also know what his illness is,Carman had a back injury in 2000. He has had a bulging disk in his back since that time. He refuses to have back surgery to correct it insisting on taking large amounts of Hydro-codone. He is taking, 500 milligrams 4 to 5 times daily.The side effects, are everything that was described in his urgent prayer request on FB. He is killing himself. He is addicted to perscription pain medication and he refuses to go into a rehab and come off of them, he also, refuses to have the back surgery to fix that problem. If an intervention is not done and done soon he will die like Micheal Jackson.

There you go.

7:11 PM  
Blogger Carrie said...

This is a copy of a disscussion posted on Carman's FB.

Its true ladies, all of it.

Topic: Lieing Dog!Reply to Topic
Displaying all 8 posts.Carrie Vandy-Miller
So let's get this straight Mr. Licciardello...YOU pretended to be very ill, cancelled your concerts and brought in tons of sympathy for yourself while the entire time your butt was in SC chasing after your latest conquest and getting yourself engaged? I'm sorry, but when are all of you people going to WAKE UP and see this human being for the liar and user he truly is? He uses God to make $ to live on..chases every female he can in chat rooms, keeps his personal behaviors under lock and key while he preaches the Gospel for gain. Ladies...get over the fantasy and get a clue. Ask him to open up his mouth and you'll see his forked tounge. Why is it that Christians can be so judgemental and yet so totally bind and in denial all at the same time. The Sicilian player strikes again!! Bravo Carman. How very disapointing.
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Amy Lansting Its true ladies.

http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?v=info&id=1070602540#!/profile.php?v=wall&id=1070602540

Add her you can see her wall and Its Carman.
Carman lied about being sick and canceling all those concerts last week to get your sympathy and buy her ring and go and give it to her. Her friends are congratulating her on being engaged to Carman Licciardello.
I knew this about this man he was very ugly to me on Myspace.

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Carrie Vandy-Miller http://facebook.com/profile.php?v=info & id=1070602540 www.facebook.com So you think he's in a state of poverty and youre worried about his health? Take a good look at what your ministry donations and heartfelt support gets you! I would suggest, with all due respect, you ask for a complete and in depth investigation into this entire ministry and it's dealings! Instead of hating this messenger, try reaching for the truth. It just might set you free!

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Amy Lansting Oh I already know he is into using money from the ministry for his own gains. I was in contact with a woman on Myspace called Oksana who said he flew to see her regulary in Cosat Rica. Ladies she is NOT aq Christian either, that ring that woman is showing is HUGH. At least 5,000.00 or more. and she is marrying Carman.
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Amy Lansting Not only that, but he re-did his website, only to delete the salvation page off it. thats really a good thing for a ministry.

7:01 AM  
Blogger Carrie said...

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Carrie Vandy-Miller I refuse to remain involved in this deception and cover up any longer. Ladies and Gentleman...PLEASE, search your hearts and and pray God will help your eyes to be opened and the truth to be brought out into the open. The moment anyone attempts to 'out' this man for what he is, he strongarms and harasses anyone that crosses him! How easy it has been to call those who want to tell the truth 'stalkers', 'crazy' and 'demon possessed'? Nice words but it doesn't work any more. ENOUGH! Proof is available...What will you try to do to ME Carman for telling the truth now? Tell me preacher..WWJD?????

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Amy Lansting Oh you were called that also? He had this woman harrass me on myspace her name is Lisa something. She harrassed me and threated me with the cops was a very fouled mouthed woman. Nice friends Mr. Licciardello. Also, she threatened me with bodily harm. Then he threatened me calling me some woman's name and when I looked her up she is a singer. He called me her and called me demonic and a stalker. I got with her and emailed her and he has called her a stalker and such. Must be something he just does to people. To silence them.


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Carrie Vandy-Miller This breaks my heart only for the thousands of people who have no clue, pour money into his ministry and happily go about their days thinking he's this virginal, man of God when so many know he is not. Theyre all afraid to speak out because they are threatened and harassed by his cohorts. Listen..Oksana is real, all the other women are real. He has multiple MySpace, FB and Twitter accounts to privatly go about his backyard business. And NO, I have never had contact with him, other than to follow up on info provided by many of his confidants and close friends who are ashamed of his behaviors and yet are aware they can be in a tough place for telling the truth. This Ministry may be filled with precious, loving, honest partners but they have not clue one what their SHEPARD is up to. I hope you all will consider my comments and think carefully about where you place your trust and loyalty. Have a Happy Easter. Carman will be having fun spending your $!!

This woman Keli is no more a Christian than my cat is. She is posting all over the pace photos wearing almost nothing, and bragging to everyone she is marrying Carman. Looks like for money, sorry sweetie he has no money. Good luck with that.

7:01 AM  
Blogger michelle said...

IT'S BACK!!!!!!!!!

http://joshlanghoff.blogspot.com/2010/03/carmans-little-bit-more-conviction-as.html

3:28 PM  
Blogger Priscilla said...

More crap....I have been posting like mad of Facebook's For Real for Now Carman forum, under my name, Genevieve. On this blog you're reading I am Gwyneth and Priscilla. Oh well, I like pseuodyms, they're fun. If you scroll up on this page, you will see someone named Charlean asking for me to contact her. She uses my Gwen instead of Gwyneth. Long story short, she then saw the For Real for Now posts and message me on Facebook , sent me her phone number. I spent an hour on the phone with her and realized she was not well mentally. Long story short, she is posting here as 'Deanna'. I know because she repeated the same stuff on the phone about the back injury, Oksana, etc. So Doug, whoever you are, I now believe her to be capable of stalking Nancy Licciardello. My apologies. I thought her to be a victim but she is worse than can be imagined in the opposite direction. I chatted nicely with her for an hour and realized that she had me call her to scope me out, and to pour oodles of stories about Carman into my ears. I politely told her a few times that it is apparent that she is vry in love with the man, carrying a terribly sad torch. She admitted that he bars her from his concerts, atc., and has her escorted out. She posts wildly against me...Google 'Weird World of Carman' to see the travesty. She alternately accused me of being Lisa Piatt AND Carman. I assure you my voice is octaves higher than Carman's.
Her rambling and incoherent posts are awful to behold. She posts as a man named 'Steve Barnett' on the For real for Now forum, and vaguely threatens me. I know it's her because of the bizarre spelling and writing style, same as on Weird World of Carman.

On this page, as Deanna and OKs, she seems to have been on her medication and is more coherent.

To say the least, I have taken lots of flak for exposing Carman.

What I can't figure is......how he hasn't been able to remove the posts. Must have been started by someone else on FB who won't take it down.

5:19 PM  
Blogger Priscilla said...

excuse my many typos.....not my forte, typing :)

5:22 PM  
Blogger michelle said...

It looks like he has cancelled his show in Austin tonight, anyone know why??

8:56 PM  
Blogger michelle said...

he certainly is doing a multi level marketing scheme, visalus... it's all about the $$$$$$$$$

4:27 PM  
Blogger Tracy said...

Carman broke up with Keli and is now dating Jenny Lynn a fitness coach and he is wanting to marry her. He took the ring back from Keli and is giving it to Jenny. Ms Lynn's website is worse than Keli's and she looks like Oksana. Mr. Carman is backslidden and needs our prayers. Jesus can't be happy with that Carman and all the preaching and saying Christian's hurt you that is a crock. Own up to your own mistakes and stop blaming everyone for what you are doing yourself.

9:09 PM  
Blogger michelle said...

a Minister of the Gospel of Jesus Christ, should not be playing in a movie where there is so much vile talk and filthy language.

http://www.changinghandsfilm.com/

Carman, don’t have a pity party on TBN, acting like Christians have hurt you! Dude, you’ve done all of this to yourself with the choices that you’ve made in life! You’ve done it all yourself! You have no one to blame but Carman! You are the one who has ruined your reputation, by making sick movies like this in the above link! Stop acting like the victim and take responsiblity for the sick choices that you’ve made in life!

12:05 PM  
Blogger michelle said...

Let’s see Carman, you’ve gone from a 5.7 million dollar complex in Tulsa, to moving to Franklin, TN, and you purchased your 5 or 6 million dollar home through the finances given to your ministry. Do you not remember the article that was written about you in the Nashville Tennessean, “Carman’s Unconventional Ministry.”

Did you ever read the Scripture, “Cursed be the man who doeth the work of the Lord deceitfully.”

and now your on TBN, using Scripture out of Context, saying WHEN, and the King James Bible says, “If they drink any deadly thing it shall by no means hurt them.” You are using this passage of Scripture out of context, in this case, to justify your sinful life! And only gullible naive Christians, who don’t know their Bibles would fall for your crafty style of handling the Word of God deceitfully.

You know if I were you, I’d take a real good look at my life and all of the harmful damage that you’ve sent out to others and all of the tragic mistakes that you have made and I would seriously have a come to Jesus experience and Repent for the Kingdom of Heaven is at hand!

And lastly, I would ask you, do you like Prophecy yet? Because it sure has come to pass in your life, hasn’t it?

7:26 PM  
Blogger Cheryl said...

I am so amazed and dismayed at all these derogatory comments about Carman. My fellow friends..... quoting from the bible, Jesus exorts us to "Judge not, that ye be not judged." We all have sinned and made mistakes in life.... even after we became Christians. We are not infallible, and God knows this. When we sin we know we can repent and turn to God forgiveness. (Which I am sure Carman has did if he felt he sinned against God).
Let us not be like the Pharisee in Luke 18:11....quote..“The Pharisee stood and was praying this to himself: ‘God, I thank You that I am not like other people: swindlers, unjust, adulterers, or even like this tax collector. 12 ‘I fast twice a week; I pay tithes of all that I get.
For all we know, Carman humbled himself before God....in the quietness of his closet and prayed like the tax collector... quote verse 13 “But the tax collector, standing some distance away, was even unwilling to lift up his eyes to heaven, but was beating his breast, saying, ‘God, be merciful to me, the sinner!’
Please note what the scripture says....quote verse 14 “I tell you, this man went to his house justified rather than the other; for everyone who exalts himself will be humbled, but he who humbles himself will be exalted.”
My dear brethren, be careful that you are not so judgemental like this Pharisee. Have forgiving hearts, pray for Carman. He is after all.... God's chosen instrument.

12:32 PM  
Blogger michelle said...

Yep, he's really God's chosen instrument...

check out this link done RECENTLY! THE LATEST FILM HE'S BEEN INVOLVED WITH!

http://www.changinghandsfilm.com/

I'm sure that God Fearing Christian parents would want to take their children to this!

12:47 PM  
Blogger michelle said...

THIS CAME FROM CARMAN'S NOTES ABOUT HIS CAT....

When he flops, instead of walking over, I get down on my knees and crawl to him..ONLY then will he let me pet him. That little stinker, he's making me pay for giving him all this drama. This is my penitence..by crawling to him. Unbelievable!

Then it hit me ( Is this God preparing me for a wife...by crawling ?..oh Lord)

WOW, NO JOKE SHERLOCK, I WONDER JUST WHO ON EARTH THAT YOU WOULD CRAWL TO AND FOR? PROBABLY SOMEONE THAT YOU HURT PRETTY BAD IN THE PAST, THAT WOULD NOT GIVE YOU THE TIME OF DAY! BUT THIS INDEED WOULD BE A SITE TO SEE... CARMAN CRAWLING FOR A WOMAN!!

8:54 PM  
Blogger Cheryl said...

Hi Michelle,

I viewed the link that you published re: Changing Hands. Though the scenes and language are horrific.... maybe by involving himself in this film, Carman wants to portray the reality of gang and gun violence.
I bet towards the end of the film... there will be a gospel message and a call to repentance and salvation.....

11:42 AM  
Blogger michelle said...

Even Carman's facebook followers are getting sick of looking at his vanity!

This came off of Carman's facebook page in response to him posting pictures about himself continually, HOW VAIN!

"What Would Jesus Do? Post pictures of himself posing on a bed? I think not! In fact, I can't remember the last time you posted a comment that was truly meaningful and uplifted the Glory of God. People need to hear the WORD of God not look at picture of a man laying on his bed!"

What people don't understand or perhaps they do, this is all this ministry is about, is Carman posting pictures of himself, continually, his photoshop pictures of himself. Like on a bed to make women think about sex! In one picture he even has the phone in the background off the hook, sexual props.

When are these Women going to wake up to the fact of who this person is, and what he's all about! He's a deceiver, a messenger of Satan, whose end is playing out according to his works! But evil men and seducers shall wax worse and worse, deceiving and being deceived.

9:33 AM  
Blogger michelle said...

Carman has either had a face lift or botox...

check out this link in the pictures of the Book of Ruth, scrolling pictures...

he looks like an old dried up prune

http://www.myspace.com/ruthmovie

he has either had a face lift or botox, cause the pictures that he is posting of himself today, sure don't look like these pictures in the Book of Ruth trailer.

12:26 PM  
Blogger michelle said...

another one of his facebook fans...

"All I know is..I'm friends with Michael W. Smith and other Christian performers and you don't see them posting pics of themselves constantly. They are focused more on the ministry and the work. I am disappointed in the last few years of what I hear out of the Carmen "ministry". I used to go to all of the concerts here in Indiana at the Market Square arena and leave energized. I don't see the same person that I used to. Just keepin it real."

FYI: Michael W. Smith, and others have a Real Calling upon their lives. They didn't just go to an Andrea Couch concert and say, "Hmm, this is what I will do for a living!" Further, they don't have to post pictures of themselves constantly to seduce and allure gullible women to look at them, like Carman does all of the time! He's trying to build back his ministry using Facebook, etc. to seduce and allure more gullible women to support his whoring around!

"And no marvel; for Satan himself is transformed into an angel of light. Therefore it is no great thing if his ministers also be transformed as the ministers of righteousness; whose end is according to their works." 2 Cor. 11:14-15

3:45 PM  
Blogger Cheryl said...

Hi Michelle,

So sad you feel this way. I can't understand the anger you feel against Carman. Remember.... the bible says, 'Judge not, lest ye be judged' and for us to 'Love one another'. Let God Himself be the judge of what Carman does.
With me....if I find anything offensive and not to my liking, I simply leave it and move on....
maybe focus on another Ministry perhaps. I am sure Carman values all his friends and supporters..... but we have to be careful that we examine our hearts and motives so that we ourselves are not the instruments of Satan, who uses man to slander his fellow men. Remember....... Satan is the accuser of the bretheren, whilst God is all merciful and loves us and forgives.
Have a lovely day.

5:56 PM  
Blogger michelle said...

No malice at all! Just hate to see people like Carman be given audience on TBN to continue with fomenting his evil deeds! But then again, who really is TBN, they host a lot of questionable people!!!

Just stating the facts of all that I know, and Just keeping it For Real For Now!

7:31 PM  
Blogger michelle said...

More responses from Carman's facebook page, about all of the pictures that he keeps posting about himself, to seduce gullible women and try to build back up his ministry, or should I say his gullible chic based ministry...

here's another quote off his Facebook Page....

"vanity, vanity, all is vanity"

"Why are you constantly posting pictures of yourself? Other Christian artists don't do that. It's vain, and that's a sin. Yes, you look good Carman, but please get over yourself already."

he can't stop doing this, Carman has a Narcissistic disorder! He's only been doing stuff like this for 30 years!

go read Available Light online posted in 2004

go read Factnet Forum about Carman, all of these people saying all of these things, the same thing over and over, cannot be wrong!

10:04 PM  
Blogger Cheryl said...

Hi Michelle,

I am really saddened by your campaign against Carman. The devil is having a field day here and he is laughing with glee. He loves division and dissension. We as Christians should stand together and pray for each other. We all have our faults. Does it not concern you that you and others are hurting his feelings by slandering him like this. Anyway.... despite the slander,Carman IS GOD'S INSTRUMENT, who He has chosen to bring lost souls into his Kingdom. Remember.... the mind of God is not the same as the mind of man.

2:31 PM  
Blogger michelle said...

Hey, I'm not the one who is laying on a bed having my picture made to present this to the world, and I don't know of any other Ministers of the Gospel of Jesus Christ that do anything of this nature!

In one of the photos, the phone in the background is off the hook.

He's even seen in pictures by a bathtub, where is the logic in all of this?

And I don't know of any other Ministers of the Gospel of Jesus Christ, that play in movies with such foul language.

So since I have only pointed out what I have seen, then you probably need to ask Carman Why is he posing for pictures in a bed? Why is the phone off of the hook in one of the pictures? And Why is he playing parts in such filthy movies?

There again, he's someone's instrument and out of all of the things that I have said in the above, I can't identify him with any Ministry promoting the Gospel of Jesus Christ!

and as for hurting his feelings, he don't read these blogs...
and I've been told that he doesn't have much of a conscience even if he does!

He needs to Repent for the Kingdom of Heaven is at hand.

3:56 PM  
Blogger Cheryl said...

Hi Michelle,
You have a lot of anger in your heart. Do you not think it is time to just forget about Carman and focus on another Ministry or something else.
If I find anything offensive, I will have nothing to do with it. I will not allow myself to be so obsessed with it, to the point of anger. Try and forget about Carman....... if you can.
All the best.

11:07 AM  
Blogger michelle said...

I don't have any anger at all, whatsoever, just posting some facts and keeping it, For Real For Now!

6:31 AM  
Blogger Cheryl said...

Okay Michelle..... anywhere... God loves you.

6:43 PM  
Blogger poetforjesus said...

I am a frontline warrior for Jesus and 7 years ago the Lord began laying him on my heart to fight for him, for He said, that he was under a HUGE ATTACK! Satan is working to do all he can to bring this man to the ground and if any of you are Christian's with a heart, you will lift him up in your prayers and fight battle for him. Satan is mad because of how many souls he has won for Jesus throughout his life. Yes, he has fallen and yes he needs the body of Christ to help him to fight, not condemn him to hell. And no, I am not after the man in any way what so ever. I am only a person who the Lord has called to help him with an attack He says, makes Jimmy Swaggart's look small!!!

3:00 PM  
Blogger Cheryl said...

Hi poetforjesus,
You have a good heart and great love for the Lord and fellowmen.
Will stand with you in prayer for Carman.
Have a lovely day.

8:05 AM  
Blogger michelle said...

Well at least he's trying to be truthful in this picture he's posted

http://www.facebook.com/#!/CarmanTV?ref=ts

He's admitting that he's a guy who wears a mask, meaning he's one way when he ministers and his private life is quite a different story!

And please understand that Carman has destroyed and harmed the reputation of others for three decades of ministry, he's gone against God's Anointed, and all of these blogs have been a reaping process of exposing him to the world, for the deceiver that he is and has been.

9:39 AM  
Blogger Cheryl said...

Hi Michelle, how has Carman gone against God's anointed.
Thanks

2:28 PM  
Blogger Cheryl said...

Let us pray for and love Carman and let God be the judge of Carman's activities whilst we as the Body Of Christ examine our hearts to ensure we are walking in line with the scriptures.
Most of us anticipate the Great Move Of God. Let us all endeavour to get our lives right before God, so we do not 'miss out' on the things of God during this Great Revival.
A book.... THE COMING GREAT REFORMATION..................
New Insights into the Coming Worldwide "Shaking", Reformation and Revival
-by ANDREW STROM
carries great insight of this Revival. There is also a write up on this website http://crash.ihug.co.nz/~revival/allbook.html
Read it and be blessed

4:45 PM  
Blogger michelle said...

Cheryl, Carman does not like anything to do with Bible Prophecy, did you see that he took down all of that stuff that you posted on his Facebook page?

Trust me, Carman has gone against God's Anointed in the past and he hates anything to do with Prophecy, because Prophecy has come to pass in his life!

"But they mocked the messengers of God, and despised his words, and misused his prophets, until the wrath of the Lord arose against his people, till there was no remedy." 2 Chron. 36:16

There is a reason that Carman has been suffering with something for six years that no doctor can diagnose, he's gone against the Lord's Anointed. Evidently, you really don't know that much about Carman!

9:50 AM  
Blogger Cheryl said...

Hi Michelle,

Yes.... I noticed that the information regarding End Time Revival was deleted. What a pity, as it is relevant for our time.

Wonder if he will tell my why if I asked.
Have a lovely day.

3:56 AM  
Blogger Cheryl said...

Hi Michelle,
I do not know what has been going on in Carman Ministries. I used to partner Carman's Ministry years ago, and have just recently connected again..... hence the ignorance.
What has happened? and can I intrude and ask what prophecies did he have and by whom.
Thanks again.

4:10 AM  
Blogger Pal Joey said...

One thing I'd like to make straight. W/out having to go into too much detail, Charlene is NOT a stalker. I got involved in this and did a bit of investigation and she knows alot about Carmanito the Duplicitous and his bogus ministry. So she gets attacked and blamed regularly by a Carmanite cult of brain addled chicks who come out like bugs from the woodwork and blame everything on her. It happened to my gal pal also when she wrote about the guy, and she wrote from recent direct experience and past direct experience. So now you know. If he has no conscience when he sees this stuff it means he's like way far gone. Satan ain't attacking him ladies, he's employing him LOL. End times deception talked about in the Book. Michelle and a couple others are making a good deal of sense here.
Also I don't agree about any great awakeing like some big revival. The Book says the opposite like a great falling away. Really check that doctrine out because false doctrines are a big part of the end times scene. Anyways I have nada to say good about this man because I am directly involved w/someone who was directly involved w/him and she is no liar. Yeah that movie is pretty bad and the chick who posted that there would be a salvation gospel message at the end and that's why he's in it is off her rocker. Talk about making huge excuses for someone's blatant evil acts!

6:45 PM  
Blogger Pal Joey said...

One thing LOL his plastic surgery is pretty well obvioso. More than botox my friend spots at least two nose jobs. Compare old photos from his sso-called ministry website. He had a bulbuss schnozz and now its tiny Michael Jackson issue. He's airbrushed to the teeth (that are all fake) and I have seen Christian men who look good and age naturally, maybe a little nip -n-tuck but htis guy really airbrushes up like a ain prissy supermodel. Then poses like a pimpish type not good for the Name of Jesus.

6:51 PM  
Blogger michelle said...

Hey Carman, this was taken off the chic you were dating, her website. Read all of this below, this is Witchcraft that she is involved in. "A fertility rite, and how to make a man fall in love with you," "they make their children pass through the fire to tell their fortunes," This is earth worship and Wicca! WITCHCRAFT!!! And you wonder Why your ministry is not being supported anymore? Go figure!

Oksana Lovoushka's Photos - OKSANA
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Click on people's faces in the photo to tag them.

.On July 7 night is an ancient one of the most expressive traditional Slavic holidays "Ivan Kupala", a fertility rite. "Ivan" - the Russian name of John (the Baptist), and "Kupala" - a word derived from the Slavic word for bathing. The latter refers to the tradition of John's baptizing people through full immersion in water and therefore with the his title of the Baptist. However, Kupalo is a name of a pre-Christian god of Sun, Love and Harvest. Nature is considered to be at the height of its power this day, so people try to collect some herbs that are said to be magical: they can make a young man fall in love with a girl, or, vice versa turn away from her. The girls sing special songs ("kupalni"), with a lot of references to love and marriage. They also float flower garlands on the water and tell their fortunes from the behavior of them. The customs of washing one's face with dew and dunking or splashing each other with a pail of water on this day have survived till nowadays. People bathe in a river, pond, or lake, in order to heal and clean themselves from negative energies. Both boys and girls jump over the bonfire, again to tell fortunes, couple reunite and celebrate. The most adventurous is to go into the forest in search of the fern - the magic flower, which blossoms flare up like flames only on this night. If found, the finder gets untold riches and happiness. The flowers leis are placed over a head of a person you like or are in love with. Guess whose head I'd place my flower lei over? :)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CJxoiJfmUCQ

9:33 AM  
Blogger Pal Joey said...

Sorry everyone I am gonna retract my former comments about Charlene not being a stalker. Priscilla was right. Just over the past couple days we put 2 and 2 togther from tons of blogs on Weird World of Carman. She made friends with Priscilla my girlfriend(not her real name but she's already admitted to the three names she blogged with) And then after a month of this buddy buddy phone chat stuff w/Priscilla, and the junk on the blogs we realized Charlene slipped up and showed herself to be blogging under almost every name on that blog. She alternately rags on herself under one name then defends herself under another name and does the same to Carman. But this is all supposedly 'Lisa Piatt' doing this and not her. Well we saw some discrepancies in the blogs plus she blabbed alotta junk to Priscilla. So when we put our heads together we realized she is playing a big game, probably on this blog too. Blogging under different names to create a climate of confusion. I'm sure there are legitimate people on here but how many are her? She loves this game! Carman no doubt is a skunk so there's no excuses for him because factnet forum starting way back in 2004 has like 1,500 at least comments from credible believers. They found out he lied about his marriage and has continued to lead a double life and has fallen by the wayside. So the dirt on him and his women etc., is real plus he dropped his salvation page from his website. But beware of the bloggers on WWOC and on here too. Could be MIss Charlene from CDC ministry doing her Carman obsession game. That's about it, I'm outta here. Too freaky because no real man of the faith would have these kinda women who rip and tear everyone who exposes him. He's the only one in CCM who has this crazy stuff buzzing over his life. So I am convinced from evidence of credible people that he is like WAY OUT THERE LOL

5:57 PM  
Blogger Pal Joey said...

PS Charlene asked Priscilla on this blog to email her so she did. Then Priscilla's gut told her 'no bueno' about this woman but someone they made up even after Charlene blogged lies about Priscilla on WWOG. Priscilla and Charlene has alotts phone chats and like I said we started to see some stuff not adding up about thsi Charlene and came to the conclusion she's a multiple blogger to the tune of an unknown number of aliases. Very freaky and so at this point meself and me lady fair are outta this Carman craziness. Wish everyone well and don;t be deceived. Bible says even the devil appears like a righteous minister and so do his angel buddies and human buddies. So when you find a so-called man of the Lord ain't one, chalk it up to fulfilled prophecy.

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1:38 AM  
Blogger michelle said...

Hey Carman, who are you hanging out with these days??? You sure do have some creepy friends!

5:03 AM  
Blogger michelle said...

Carman, you see how Obama is going around and apologizing to everyone for America's behaviour, however in this case, this is perceived as a sign of weakness.

Though, if you were to go around and apologize to everyone that you've hurt and repent openly and publicly, or say something like... when you're on t.v. Say, "You know if my ministry has ever hurt anyone in the Body of Christ, I would just like to ask your forgiveness!" That's all, simple as that, it's called fruit and works meet with repentance, if you would do this, your ministry might have a chance???

It is a sign of humility for a man to humble himself before God and his fellow man...

Can you do it???

1:21 PM  
Blogger michelle said...

Carman, you need to read this:

From Bob_O_Link’s post…… THE TRUTH BE TOLD!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

.”Still single @ your age is a red flag, ask any woman. The Lord brought the ‘right’ partner years ago and ya displaced her. Had you not, now ya’d have a beautiful grown SON, with honors from God and not from wicked men, and an equally beautiful godly wife your own age, who’d a been a valuable ministry equal on stage with ya all these years. Honor! You lost it!”

4:53 PM  
Blogger michelle said...

Here is a new blog or an old blog brought back, in case anyone wants to blog about Carman...

IT'S BACK!!!!!!!!!

http://joshlanghoff.blogspot.com/2010/03/carmans-little-bit-more-conviction-as.html

6:36 AM  
Blogger concerned Christian 2 said...

Michelle what is your last name?
Is it Koledjie?

8:21 PM  
Blogger Glen Erica said...

Her last name is Cole. She blogs under a zillion names, but it's not illegal. Anyone hear of any news from the Carman camp

1:07 PM  
Blogger Walking the line. said...

do you people know that there are many women, some in ministry, who have absolute beliefs that God called them to marry carman?

he does accuse people of being stalkers and says that they are demons or spirits sent to disturb him.

it is true some obsessed women have really been a problem. he needs prayer and deserves empathy about that. however it does come with the package of being a celebrity.

why does vada not tell the truth about carman traveling to cities to see women, women he's been engage to and the money he's spent?

also, do you really believe that changing hands is a vehicle to preach? there are many Scripture
that tell him not to use a bad witness or to sin to preach the Gospel.

is he on crack?

and cheryl, you may sound like you are being peaceful with michelle from indiana, but there is alot of enabling and denial going on.

there are so many lies and manipulations and lifestyle issues with carman, you should not be defending him for the sake of caring.

"A harsh rebuke brings about peace."

"If you see your brother in a sin, go and tell him."

yes sure carman has been attacked by satan and more so than most everyday Christians. because of the ministry and calling. but then again, God never allows us to be tempted above that which we are able and He makes a way of escape with every sin problem.

so if michelle is angry with carman, so what? he deserves some anger. it's a consequence. he does not deserve nutty people who are in a delusion or who wish to harm him using that as an excuse.

then on his side of things....he is a woman hater and has hurt people terribly and is a giant flake in his own rite. maybe he is reaping some things in the hate department and if he repented, things would improve.

one thing the man isn't is a big giant victim. that's a ploy of a domestic abuser.

and yes his photos may be 'modern' and 'hip' but the bed photo is ridiculous and weird for a minister. the shoot is too sexualized and 'themed'.

also carman lies about never having a pet. he had a white german shepperd that scratched his face on the way to a photo shoot.

just more lies.
and the crawling to phil thing and the wife thing. wow carman.

highly doubt that the body builder jenny lynn has anything to do with carman. he is not up to the physical standard she would want.

jim2
chipolte

9:10 PM  
Blogger Walking the line. said...

do you people know that there are many women, some in ministry, who have absolute beliefs that God called them to marry carman?

he does accuse people of being stalkers and says that they are demons or spirits sent to disturb him.

it is true some obsessed women have really been a problem. he needs prayer and deserves empathy about that. however it does come with the package of being a celebrity.

why does vada not tell the truth about carman traveling to cities to see women, women he's been engage to and the money he's spent?

also, do you really believe that changing hands is a vehicle to preach? there are many Scripture
that tell him not to use a bad witness or to sin to preach the Gospel.

is he on crack?

and cheryl, you may sound like you are being peaceful with michelle from indiana, but there is alot of enabling and denial going on.

there are so many lies and manipulations and lifestyle issues with carman, you should not be defending him for the sake of caring.

"A harsh rebuke brings about peace."

"If you see your brother in a sin, go and tell him."

yes sure carman has been attacked by satan and more so than most everyday Christians. because of the ministry and calling. but then again, God never allows us to be tempted above that which we are able and He makes a way of escape with every sin problem.

so if michelle is angry with carman, so what? he deserves some anger. it's a consequence. he does not deserve nutty people who are in a delusion or who wish to harm him using that as an excuse.

then on his side of things....he is a woman hater and has hurt people terribly and is a giant flake in his own rite. maybe he is reaping some things in the hate department and if he repented, things would improve.

one thing the man isn't is a big giant victim. that's a ploy of a domestic abuser.

and yes his photos may be 'modern' and 'hip' but the bed photo is ridiculous and weird for a minister. the shoot is too sexualized and 'themed'.

also carman lies about never having a pet. he had a white german shepperd that scratched his face on the way to a photo shoot.

just more lies.
and the crawling to phil thing and the wife thing. wow carman.

highly doubt that the body builder jenny lynn has anything to do with carman. he is not up to the physical standard she would want.

jim2
chipolte

9:10 PM  
Blogger Walking the line. said...

do you people know that there are many women, some in ministry, who have absolute beliefs that God called them to marry carman?

he does accuse people of being stalkers and says that they are demons or spirits sent to disturb him.

it is true some obsessed women have really been a problem. he needs prayer and deserves empathy about that. however it does come with the package of being a celebrity.

why does vada not tell the truth about carman traveling to cities to see women, women he's been engage to and the money he's spent?

also, do you really believe that changing hands is a vehicle to preach? there are many Scripture
that tell him not to use a bad witness or to sin to preach the Gospel.

is he on crack?

and cheryl, you may sound like you are being peaceful with michelle from indiana, but there is alot of enabling and denial going on.

there are so many lies and manipulations and lifestyle issues with carman, you should not be defending him for the sake of caring.

"A harsh rebuke brings about peace."

"If you see your brother in a sin, go and tell him."

yes sure carman has been attacked by satan and more so than most everyday Christians. because of the ministry and calling. but then again, God never allows us to be tempted above that which we are able and He makes a way of escape with every sin problem.

so if michelle is angry with carman, so what? he deserves some anger. it's a consequence. he does not deserve nutty people who are in a delusion or who wish to harm him using that as an excuse.

then on his side of things....he is a woman hater and has hurt people terribly and is a giant flake in his own rite. maybe he is reaping some things in the hate department and if he repented, things would improve.

one thing the man isn't is a big giant victim. that's a ploy of a domestic abuser.

and yes his photos may be 'modern' and 'hip' but the bed photo is ridiculous and weird for a minister. the shoot is too sexualized and 'themed'.

also carman lies about never having a pet. he had a white german shepperd that scratched his face on the way to a photo shoot.

just more lies.
and the crawling to phil thing and the wife thing. wow carman.

highly doubt that the body builder jenny lynn has anything to do with carman. he is not up to the physical standard she would want.

jim2
chipolte

9:10 PM  
Blogger Walking the line. said...

do you people know that there are many women, some in ministry, who have absolute beliefs that God called them to marry carman?

he does accuse people of being stalkers and says that they are demons or spirits sent to disturb him.

it is true some obsessed women have really been a problem. he needs prayer and deserves empathy about that. however it does come with the package of being a celebrity.

why does vada not tell the truth about carman traveling to cities to see women, women he's been engage to and the money he's spent?

also, do you really believe that changing hands is a vehicle to preach? there are many Scripture
that tell him not to use a bad witness or to sin to preach the Gospel.

is he on crack?

and cheryl, you may sound like you are being peaceful with michelle from indiana, but there is alot of enabling and denial going on.

there are so many lies and manipulations and lifestyle issues with carman, you should not be defending him for the sake of caring.

"A harsh rebuke brings about peace."

"If you see your brother in a sin, go and tell him."

yes sure carman has been attacked by satan and more so than most everyday Christians. because of the ministry and calling. but then again, God never allows us to be tempted above that which we are able and He makes a way of escape with every sin problem.

so if michelle is angry with carman, so what? he deserves some anger. it's a consequence. he does not deserve nutty people who are in a delusion or who wish to harm him using that as an excuse.

then on his side of things....he is a woman hater and has hurt people terribly and is a giant flake in his own rite. maybe he is reaping some things in the hate department and if he repented, things would improve.

one thing the man isn't is a big giant victim. that's a ploy of a domestic abuser.

and yes his photos may be 'modern' and 'hip' but the bed photo is ridiculous and weird for a minister. the shoot is too sexualized and 'themed'.

also carman lies about never having a pet. he had a white german shepperd that scratched his face on the way to a photo shoot.

just more lies.
and the crawling to phil thing and the wife thing. wow carman.

highly doubt that the body builder jenny lynn has anything to do with carman. he is not up to the physical standard she would want.

jim2
chipolte

9:11 PM  
Blogger Walking the line. said...

i have no idea why the post above showed up multiple times. didn't plan it and have no idea how it happened.

shucks.
jim2

9:13 PM  
Blogger michelle said...

Carman, all of your music stinks! Your record sales are in the toilet, all of your music is the spirit and age of this world, for Satan the Devil! And you are Satan's favorite Minister of Righteousness whose end is playing out in LIFE according to your works!

4:20 PM  
Blogger teddybear said...

You people need to get a life.... I have never heard a bunch of "so called" christians ripping a person just becaise they may have sinned. Instead of gossiping like hens you should be reading the Bible like I try to do!

9:17 PM  
Blogger CC said...

Teddybear, who are you? IF you will notice alot of the bashing is not against Carman, but others, this is NOT Un usaual at all... even he has bashed me for years as are those here bashing me also.... wantabee brides of Carman's always bash the person telling the truth to them they dont want to here it......

8:34 PM  
Blogger Sandro said...

@CC...who is bashing you? You must be Charlean. Anyway, you are the biggest wannabe bride of them all. As I look through the comments I see some highly credible postings by a woman that can't be summarily dismissed as 'crackpotism', as you'd like everyone to believe. In any event, the guy has been booted out of the churches finally and has no scheduled appearances for this year. The persistance of some of us, also not to mention the Holy Spirit, has finally removed this charlatan from deceiving any more people from the pulpit. Let's just say maybe at one time his act was credible (though fake) but now the cat's out of the bag. Your constant persecution complex is tedious. No one gives a hoot about bashing you. You have always tried hard to turn any Carman blog into a blog about you.

10:19 AM  
Blogger Sandro said...

@ Teddybear: Gather all the facts before inserting foot in mouth. The guy Carman has been leading a double life for years and deceiving a lot of people. And quit 'trying' to read the Bible and just DO IT. Check out the parts that discuss false prophets, ministers, etc.

10:22 AM  
Blogger CC said...

Sandro(gwen, priscilla,gendolyn, gayle(which by the way is her real name) and all the other fake names you have used) By the way her real last name is DEANGELO Get a JOB. Get a Real Job and leave everyone alone, esp emails to Carman under all your fake accounts. By the way, which is stalking, something you have done to Carman for 20 years. Lie to someone who has not done the FBI Background on your antics. Your a Stalker, everyone knows it and you are headed for jail if you continue doing what your doing.

8:58 PM  
Blogger CC said...

Oh by the way your idiotic remarks over Facebook being run by the Government and everyone is watching everything you do is parionia and skitzo. Does Mark Zukerman know that Facebook has been taken over by the FBI, if so how come the Government allows him to cash the checks. After all he man is the youngest Billionaire in the USA because of FACEBOOK. Your mental illness and parionia is very disturbing. You need to stop emailing Carman, and calling others all hours of the day and night and leaving threating messages because, I have news for you, and you need to be paronid over this.The police have been informed of your stalkish behavior and you are being monitered, not for the case you claim( which you claim "I have done nothing wrong"),but for actual stalking.

Leave everyone alone, unless you like the color orange(prison wear).

9:08 PM  
Blogger teddybear said...

I notice mostly (the posts)it's Andrea said..... and I just vouced my opinion.... that is all nothing to warrant threataning mr with the cops.... and saying it was from Carrman too! such gall!!

9:32 PM  
Blogger teddybear said...

WOMEN .......you need a life! I am going to say it one more time.....UNTIL any one of you can remove the 2x4 in your own eye dont go preaching to me!

12:28 PM  
Blogger CC said...

Teddybear your post just reveals you to be another fake name of Gwen/gayle's,so you are gwen too?Intereseting talking to yourself, exhibits signs of multiple personalities. Another thing for the lawyers.

5:44 PM  
Blogger teddybear said...

bring the lawywes on!! I'm just writing what i see , and I see some troubled women on this blog of which this is my last response to you CC

6:01 PM  
Blogger CC said...

If your also Gayle, which I believe you are, you are correct you are troubled. You need a mental hospital. If your Gayle.

2:35 PM  
Blogger Jeeva said...

Unbelievable how Christians gossip, slander, ridicule fellow Christians.
Just imagine a non believer reading this. They would never come to Christ and their blood will be on your hands.

4:42 AM  
Blogger michelle said...

Man, this guy never ceases to amaze me. He cannot fill up stadiums anymore, he can't even get invited to any of the churches to speak! And now he puts out his latest gimmick to make more money using God's Name, he wants to be downloaded to your cell phone for $4.95 cents per month. Man this guy just won't stop! He's done everything from 1 900 numbers to opening up a paid chat site so that gullible women would pay to chat with him. Now his latest gimmick is he wants to be downloaded to your cell phone and get this, he wants to be your "life coach!" Amazing, he can't stay married for more than a couple of months, he has no business being on TBN, but hey they host alot of questionable people. This guy will stop at nothing to use God's Name to make a buck! Or actually use his name to make a buck! Hopefully everyone is sick of Carman and no one will fall for his latest new gimmick!

7:34 AM  
Blogger michelle said...

Evil men understand not judgment." Proverbs 28:5

"Wealth gotten by vanity shall be diminished." Proverbs 13:11

Here is a comment from Carman's facebook page from very astute Christian

Carla Johns Silva To be honest, I too thought it was a little overkill on how wonderful Carman is. Carman is great but that video was too much. In fact, this facebook page is like that too.
Yesterday at 9:17am.

Debbie Cardwell PLEASE READ: 2 Corinthians chapters 6 and 11 all, about the hardships of the Apostle Paul. He was not exalted, honored or rich. There is a message on there for people that are in the money and secular scene with their ministries. PEACE TO YOU!

"Woe unto you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! for ye compass sea and land to make one proselyte, and when he is made, ye make him twofold more the child of hell than yourselves." Matt 23:15

That is all Carman Ministries, Carman World Outreach has ever been about, to seduce the gullible and make merchandise out of the souls of men! That video on his website is all about Carman and his latest gimmick with his Mobile Ministry Club is to give him a residual income so that he can continue on with his double lifestyle and his backyard whoring around!

10:42 AM  
Blogger Jeeva said...

Hey Michelle when you take God's place??? You sound so terrible.
Poor you. Must pray for you.

8:18 AM  
Blogger Lorey McConnell said...

his "ministry" leaves alot to be desired...there is no humility nor humbeness..and the more people who contact me with stories abotu him and his arrogance the more i know he is not what he appears..his facebook page is filled with pics of him in various poses asking for opinions about what hes wearing and in one picture in the past few days he actually instigates controversy and boasts about it...his lil friend "lisa" upports his arrogance and sexually suggestive pose , and her own fb page photos feflect the same..sad case this man is, and hes gotten so callous he is not even trying to hide it anymore...NOT a fan..just annoyed he uses the words "christian recording artist" like some sort of crown..nothign on his page to edify the body of Christ..the only thing he is doing is edifying himself

10:06 AM  
Blogger Lorey McConnell said...

sorry about the typos people..i never claimed to be a pro at it lol

10:08 AM  
Blogger Tonya said...

I can't determine how old the newest posts on this are but WOW. You people have a ton of time on your hands. I wonder how many people you could have shared the love of Jesus with, how many homeless you could have fed, outcasts you could have given a few minutes of your time to, how many broken hearted you could have prayed with... while you've been bashing someone whose sin or lack thereof are not your business and especially not for public dissemination.

3:52 PM  
Blogger michelle said...

Sounds like something that Vada Allen would say, although she has never done any of these things either!

Carman Licciardello, is a deceiver in the Body of Christ that has been exposed as such!

Anyone that signs up for his latest gimmick, his Mobile Ministry Club is a first class Sucker! the guy lies in wait to deceive and just about everything that has been written on these blogs about him and his ministry for years is the Truth. The only ones that he's fooling these days are the suckers in his clan, that cater to his ego and tell him how great he is. False teachers like him are in place for a reason, they damn themselves and they damn all of those that follow them! And talk about arrogance, this person is full of Pride and selfish ambition. Carman would never read his mail, so all of these blogs about him have been a reaping in his life. The guy does not have much of a conscience, it has been seared by a hot iron through speaking lies in hypocricy. The guy is out for himself, and whoever he can seduce to follow him and to help foment his evil deeds. He has no business being on TBN, that is probably the reason Why he never tells when he's going to be on, because he's probably afraid that all of his critics will write letters to TBN, and this is the only thing that is keeping him afloat. People like him, need to be exposed! And for him, the best is yet to come!

8:04 PM  
Blogger michelle said...

Lorey McConnell

GOOD POST! This guy is always trying to act like the sex pot of Christendom. Would not suprise me one bit if he turns out to be like Rock Hudson!

"For of this sort are they which creep into houses, and lead captive SILLY WOMEN laden with sins, led away with divers lusts. Ever learning and never able to come to the knowledge of the truth. Now as Jannes and Jambres withstood Moses, so do these also RESIST THE TRUTH; men of CORRUPT MINDS, REPROBATE concerning the faith. But they shall proceed no further: for their folly shall be manifest unto all men, as theirs also was." 2 Timothy 3:6-9 (Emphasis Mine)

Have you ever noticed that the only following that he has are these SILLY WOMEN described in the above verse! Carman is the thief, he has climbed up into the sheepfold some other way and never had a lawful entrance into the ministry which is through the door which is Jesus Christ! Thieves, Robbers and hirelings they are and I can guarantee you when tragedy strikes in America, and it soon will, Carman Licciardello will not be a Voice that ANYONE WILL BE LISTENING TO! He just simply is NOT IN TOUCH WITH THE SPIRIT OF GOD! Perhaps the anti christ spirit, but nothing from God!

2:25 PM  
Blogger Lorey McConnell said...

Michelle, appreciate the comment, i truly believe this man is narsastic(sp)! it just astounds me the amount of time he spends on stiring the pot of lust he has created ! nothing about what the Lord is doing !! nothing about how carmans ministry is helping the poor, the widowed, and the orphans, which according to the word of God is what true religion is! its not about if you look good in sun glasses or not! or do you look good in blue or whatever! im not so close minded that i think christians should not have any fun, however if you are influencing young lives and representing the ministry , weather it be thru music or preaching ( incidently carman is not an ordained minister) you should use good judgment in what and how you present yourself..do young eyes see him? sure they do! do young girls have thoughts about him , im sure they do! but the real reason i believe this is occuring is due to carmans constantly asking for opinions about his looks to draw attention to hisself in a less than Godly way...one is left to wonder is he insecure about his appearance? is he unhappy with aging and grasping at youth? does he feel he has lost his edge and trying to get back into the "game" by lowering himself into a secular downward spiral of sexual undertone and suggestive poses? i believe he is in need of prayer and to be delivered from whatever demonic presence that has gotten ahold of him...the very word "fan" bothers me and i know several others. fan is a secular term to describe adoration of someone? is that close to idolism or worship? hummmm ~~

10:34 PM  
Blogger ilangeleyes7 said...

Wow after reading all of these blogs my head is spinning... I was a Carman fan for many years. Then one day something didn't just seem right to me. So many rumors running around which are true? I would love to finally know. My feeling leans toward that he has lost his gift.. Someone email me please with the truth. No phychos, just the truth... ilangeleyes7@yahoo.com. Thank you..

8:15 AM  
Blogger michelle said...

Lorey McConnell

DO NOT RESPOND TO ANYONE WANTING YOU TO CORRESPOND WITH THEM VIA EMAIL.

9:01 AM  
Blogger Lorey McConnell said...

Michelle,
i dont do that unless i know them..thanks for the tip though..and i know why your giving me that advice..i do not respond to emails

9:16 AM  
Blogger michelle said...

Lorey Mcconell, you said, "i believe he is in need of prayer and to be delivered from whatever demonic presence that has gotten ahold of him."

The guy is in need of a real encounter with Jesus Christ, he needs to experience a real legitimate born again experience! Whereby he experiences Godly sorrow that leads to salvation, not to be repented of. And he needs to make things right with all of the folks that he stepped on upon the way to stardom.

12:51 PM  
Blogger michelle said...

THE SAMPSON OPTION!!! Isn't it a Beautiful thing to behold, or perhaps Witness! Isn't it Carman???

9:56 AM  
Blogger michelle said...

p.s. Carman, Do you like Prophecy yet??

1:30 PM  
Blogger Rhonda Lynn said...

Everyone~ shut up

4:54 PM  
Blogger Rhonda Lynn said...

Everyone, shut up.

4:54 PM  
Blogger michelle said...

God picks the delusions of his enemies! You don't seriously think that all of this secular rap music and secular dancing of the world is pleasing in the site of a Holy God! In fact, Carman Licciardello is deemed as infamous! he's a foul stench in the breath of God's Nostrils! Thank God it's harvest time and time to gather first the tares to bind them in bundles to Burn them! Fact, not fiction!

11:17 AM  
Blogger michelle said...

All of these prayers going up for you Carman, what a complete joke! God doesn't answer any prayers for any of the devil's servants! The only type of prayer that God will answer in regards to Carman Licciardello is when you sigh and cry over all of the abominations that be done in the midst thereof! These type of prayers get God's Attention! It time for God to give him the Golden Cup of God's Wrath, Mystery Babylon! Fact, not fiction!

11:50 AM  
Blogger michelle said...

"... Bloody and deceitful men shall not live out half their days; but I will trust in thee." Psalms 55:23

11:58 AM  
Blogger michelle said...

Lorey McConnell

This story is very fishy. And what you had to say about internal injuries was true. C kept his engagements after the accident, and any time people post anything of him performing the night after the accident, he takes it down. All of this is being used as a ploy for publicity! And don't be too quick to jump and think that C has any angels watching over him! WRONG! THE DEVIL'S SERVANTS HAVE DEMONIC PROTECTION! AND THIS SERVANT OF SATAN'S HAS GOT A LOT!
C you might be fooling all of the gullible chics on your facebook page, but this is one that has got the goods on you! Word Up!

10:32 AM  
Blogger Susan Throop said...

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9:55 AM  
Blogger Honeyfitz said...

Let's clear things up a bit.

First, Lorey McConnell, you were told by an eye witness about Carman's outrageous antics onstage in a church in 2008. This person called you at your home. You professed to believe her. Then you got on Facebook and helped bash her when she openly confronted Carman, using her real photo and hiding nothing. Now you bash Carman?

"Gayle' is not delusional re: Facebook and other so-called social networks being used as fronts for government surveillance of the population.Do the research if you dare.

'Gayle' was also quite responsible for the churches no longer inviting Carman. This was not done out of spite for the shabby way he treated her years ago, but because she genuinely felt he was a very bad influence for the youth in these churches.

The pastors she contacted in these churches were asked to do only one thing and then make up their own minds: Look at Carman's (now defunct) MySpace page and his 'friends' section. That was enough for the chain of calls and cancellations to begin.

The churches are already severely compromised and very few preach the real Gospel that I see in my 1611 King James Bible. Sad, in the beginning he was credible and very convincing.

'Gayle' got a bird's eye view in 2008 of what Carman was all about, and felt the Holy Spirit employed her to stop at least this part of the sham of Carman and his 'ministry'.

He would like to tell all of you that she is mad because he jilted her (he alternately claims not to remember her, then claims he dumped her). There is a lady in Alabama who saw email communications between Carman and "Gayle' in 2009 and knows 'Gayle' is not lying.

When 'Gayle' knew him years ago, her discernment level was not good and she fell for his 'schtick', as did so many others.

Laughable: Carman has the cops on her? Funny, she has recently passed an Interpol check to work in a foreign country. The cops are not interested in this type of case anyway. She is not now, nor has she ever been, a stalker. She confronted Carman fair and square on Facebook. She had not seen him for 25 years when she saw him in 2008.

Not once in those 25 years did she look for him, attend a concert, or attempt to contact him in any way. Actually, she put him out of her mind and moved on, never even purchasing a CD or looking him up on the internet....until after seeing him live in 2008.

The 'by chance' situation of seeing him in 2008 was completely unplanned in that she found out via a coincidence that he'd be in her town... and decided to go see. She was expecting a man of God as she once remembered him. She had no idea of his ill-fated marriage, the rumors, or the notoriety he had gained on the internet in the passing of these years.

To the blogger who is 'appalled'...good. Maybe you need an eye opener that everything is not as it seems. Evil triumphs when we do nothing.

As for TBN getting rid of Carman if they found out he's a fraud via angry mail, I highly doubt it. They regularly host frauds.

More likely, Carman does not announce his appearances on TBN out of fear of who might show up and point the prophet's finger of doom at him....or boycott the studio, or something like that.

Hope this clears up the situation somewhat.

7:12 PM  
Blogger Honeyfitz said...

P.S.

Carman accuses 'Gayle' of using multiple screen names to post on various blogs.

As of the writing of this post, this is not considered an internet crime; this multiple screen name phenomenon is quite the norm for people who blog on Yahoo, etc.

I know people who have three or more Youtube accounts and Yahoo email addresses using aliases.

And Carman, you are the KING of this sort of behavior. Are you still using the 'Fred' name on one of your myriad Facebook profiles? LOL !!!

I truly thank the Living God that He got me out of harm's way and rushed Carman out of my life years ago before I could become another statistic.

7:22 PM  
Blogger Susan Throop said...

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11:43 AM  
Blogger Susan Throop said...

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12:30 PM  
Blogger Honeyfitz said...

Dear Susan,

Your sincerity is very evident and indeed the Lord will eventually handle the situation in His own way.

Please note that many serious believers have approached Carman, to no apparent avail.

I doubt that people will not be saved because of coming across this blog. Christ is being slammed and the Bible defamed all over the globe, and this has nothing to do with Carman, per se.

It has to do with the fulfillment of end time prophecy.

Again, than you for sharing your thoughts.

3:25 PM  
Blogger Honeyfitz said...

Dear Susan,

Your sincerity is very evident and indeed the Lord will eventually handle the situation in His own way.

Please note that many serious believers have approached Carman, to no apparent avail.

I doubt that people will not be saved because of coming across this blog. Christ is being slammed and the Bible defamed all over the globe, and this has nothing to do with Carman, per se.

It has to do with the fulfillment of end time prophecy.

Again, than you for sharing your thoughts.

3:26 PM  
Blogger Susan Throop said...

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3:31 PM  
Blogger Apenny4urthoughts said...

The bible says a man believes his own ways are right in his eyes but they are far from it. Love covers a multitude of sins. The bible says that a man of God will not share a fault but cover it with love. If you are a child of the most high God your mission is to walk in his ways. One of the most important things the Lord has commanded us to do is to have charity-LOVE. IT is above all things. When you walk in Love you have perfected a thing.

Where is your love for God? It is he who you serve and his will. This page is self satisfying and does not edify the body of christ but creates division amongst the people. Vengence is mine saith the Lord I will repay!

I agree with Susan, this page and all the pages that are being posted about Carman and anyone else in a defammatory way should be removed immediately! This is not of God and he is not pleased by it.

The bible says that we are not to speak evil of no man. What is your goal? As christians we should be striving to get a closer walk with christ and to draw others to the cross. No man apart from christ can do anything in the kingdom of God availing it be profitable- each man is in need of the HOLy Spirit to keep us and guide us through this journey.

At some point every man has to take responsibility for what we allow in our lives and what we do to others no matter the out-come. dont let yourself be taken advantage of. A mature christian can handle the truth and grow from it and an immature one is still striving to come into the truth.

The bible says who will ascend unto my holy-hill only those with clean hands and a pure heart!

March 10, 2012

7:18 AM  
Blogger michelle said...

The Bible also says: "You cannot drink the cup of the Lord, and the cup of DEVILS, you cannot be partakers of the Lord's table and of the table of devils!" I Cor. 10:21

10:48 AM  
Blogger michelle said...

The Bible also clearly says:

"Ye cannot drink the cup of the Lord and the cup of devils: ye cannot be partakers of the Lord's table and the table of devils!" I Cor. 10:21

10:52 AM  
Blogger michelle said...

The Bible also clearly says:

"Ye cannot drink the cup of the Lord, and the cup of devils: ye cannot be partakers of the Lord's table and the table of devils." I Cor. 10:21

10:54 AM  
Blogger Susan Throop said...

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12:54 PM  
Blogger La Verdad said...

The reason Penny4urThoughts sounds double-minded is because I'd bet a buck it's Carman blogging here. And Susan, PLEASE stop being Dr. Joyce Borthers on Carman's behalf. It's become rather condescending to the rest of us at this point.
Israel's GOD, in case you are not aware, is also the I AM, Jesus Christ. Jesus Christ was known for His public rebuke of hypocrites. I rest my case. Plenty of people have tried to talk to Carman in private. He has no pastor abovee him or anyone he is responsible to. Frankly, I think these blogs have accomplished a purpose......he's busted now and he knows it. Only goofy groupies will fall for him now. I agree with Michelle's postings 100%.

8:18 AM  
Blogger La Verdad said...

Actually, you are becoming Dr. Joyce BOTHERS. My original typo on that name spelling made me see a unique chance to show you how you come across.

Love, shmuv. God has a flip side to that coin known as 'judgment'. Carman shows little love, except when he's asking for money, lol.

If the 'church' preached the real gospel, the pews would be empty. The real Gospel is full of 'hard sayings'. We have the 'tickle my ears' and 'empty your pockets into my pockets' type of preachers now, but hey, whatever, it fulfills end times prophecy. Hope it's time for the going home air-lift very, very soon!

8:25 AM  
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10:19 PM  
Blogger La Verdad said...

Wow, getting a little hot under the collar there, Dr. Brothers? There's ALWAYS one of you on every blog; a know-it-all.

Remember, Jesus was FAMOUS for public rebuke of hypocrites. The word hypocrite means 'actor' in Greek. Stop defending Carman and frankly, stop telling everybody to shut up, in so many words.

What's your angle in this anyway? Why do you give a flip what anyone says about this phoney guy? Idol worship? Don't bother to answer with your repetitive holier-than-thou rhetoric...I won't be back to read it. LOL. Carman. LOL.

6:29 PM  
Blogger La Verdad said...

BTW why did you remove most of your comments? Must be that you see how really idolatrous they seem, like you just worship this guy and defend him no matter what.

If my sins ever outweighed his, you can be sure I have repented long ago of them. Like I said, a public rebuke is the only channel we have, since he seems to think he's above the law and answers to no one, listens to no one. He brought this on himself.

We'll miss ya, doc!

6:34 PM  
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9:51 PM  
Blogger michelle said...

He will never tell anyone that he has hurt that he is sorry! That's a pipe dream! Carman apologizing to anyone, it will be a cold day in hell, before this ever happens! I have absolutely 0 faith in God to be able to change him. Zero faith! And yes, all of the blogs were from the Hand of God, to try and get his attention!

1:59 AM  
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6:54 AM  
Blogger La Verdad said...

Michelle, I have 0 faith that Carman will respond to God, but 100% faith that God has tried unsuccessfully to reach Carman.

As for Throop (sounds like a throat infection) invoking the pagan Masonic 12 steps ('God as we know Him', huh? Not a Biblical position, dearie. It's God as He has revealed Himself to us through Jesus Christ) clamming up, I guess hell will freeze over on that one, too.

Useless situation. Those of us that know Carman 'know'.

6:48 PM  
Blogger La Verdad said...

Hypothetically, Throop, anyone can change. Realistically, few do. You sure are a long-winded person who really says very little of importance. If you have a husband, I'll bet he's the CEO of an earplug manufacturing company.

6:51 PM  
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10:41 PM  
Blogger La Verdad said...

Gee thanks for the gratuitous history lesson. 'Higher Power' nonsense from 12-Step is non-Biblical, pagan, and those two who started it are/were Freemasons.

I'll let you have the last word if you write another stultifyingly uninteresting post(which you are compelled to do....are you a boring-post addict?).
I can't bear to read another one.

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12:01 PM  
Blogger michelle said...

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Michelle, I have 0 faith that Carman will respond to God, but 100% faith that God has tried unsuccessfully to reach Carman.

I WHOLLY AGREE! IT IS AND HAS ALWAYS BEEN ABOUT CARMAN! AND IT ALWAYS WILL BE! AND WITH BUTT KISSERS LIKE HE HAS IN PLACE THAT CATER TO HIS EGO PEOPLE THAT ARE UNSKILLED AT HANDLING THE WORD OF GOD, AND HAVE NEVER HEARD THE VOICE OF GOD, HIS SITUATION IS HOPELESS! THERE IS A REASON THAT HE HAS GONE FROM A 5.7 MILLION DOLLAR COMPLEX IN TULSA, DOWN TO WHAT HE HAS TODAY, EVIL MEN DO NOT UNDERSTAND JUDGMENT!

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2:08 PM  
Blogger michelle said...

Carman, you have never been Called by God to do anything your whole entire stinking life. All you are is a Charlatian, like you can really teach people how to get into full time ministry. Only the Holy Ghost is the One who calls people, not you, you stupid mule's ass!

GO BACK TO LAS VEGAS WHERE YOU CAME FROM AND GO SING IN NIGHTCLUBS, THAT'S WHERE TRASH LIKE YOU BELONGS!

9:31 AM  
Blogger michelle said...

Carman IN THE FLESH

http://www.fmh-child.org/Carman.html

2:10 PM  
Blogger michelle said...

Carman IN THE FLESH

http://www.fmh-child.org/Carman.html

2:11 PM  
Blogger TellingTheTruth said...

When you folks speak against Carman, you are drinking the poison that you have poured for him to drink. Nobody has the right to speak against someone. If you feel that Carman has offended you in some way, give it to God and let Him deal with it. "Vengeance is mine. I will repay.", says the Lord. All the criticism on this blog must be grieving the Lord. We are ALL called to go out and preach the Gospel of Jesus Christ. None of us are perfect. God knows that, but He still wants to use us for His good purposes. God was able to use Moses, a murderer and angry man, to lead His people out of Egypt. The Apostle Peter denied Jesus 3 times, but you don't hear people harping on him about that now. Saul, who became the Apostle Paul, was murdering the Christians until Jesus got a hold of him. Now he's considered one of the great leaders of the church who wrote most of the New Testament. Whether you want to believe it or not, Carman IS being used by God. I recently saw him live after nearly 20 years. My friends and I agree that God is using Carman in mighty ways. If there is anything he is doing that is not of God, that's not for you to judge. It's between him and God. It's not up for discussion by anyone else. If you want to discuss it, feel free to take it up with God yourself. He already knows your thoughts. Christians are suppose to encourage one another and gently restore someone who has fallen. We are to bless one another, including our enemies. A number of us are praying for Carman. No weapon formed against him will prosper. God will protect him from the hands of his enemies and God will discipline him as He deems necessary, as He will for all of His children. Please, I urge you all to give all of your grievances to God. I pray that you will forgive Carman for anything he may have done to somehow offend you. If you do not forgive him, then God will not forgive you for all of your offenses. Then ask Carman to forgive you, too, for the accusations that you've made against him. Finally, please pray for Carman. A man of God will have to endure many attacks from his enemies. Carman needs your prayers and support, not your criticism. Jesus is coming back for His people very soon. There are many people who need to be reached with the Gospel of Jesus Christ before it's too late. I hope and pray that your mission will be about spreading the Good News of Jesus Christ to a dying world, and not knocking fellow Christians like Carman.

9:14 PM  
Blogger Patience Philips said...

Been there done that, worked for him and his cult leaders. They are just as much of the problem as Carman himself. Manipulative and deceiving behind the face of supposed trusted sweet innocence, fake personalities lie in wait. If you question their authority they will curse you and defame your character and spread lies. All for the reason of a member of the so - called "ministry" questioning if they are reaching the lost to Jesus or if the call has been lost. The Bible tells us that we are to keep each other in check and question leadership if they have become more about themselves and their love of power or self gratification rather than saving souls for Christ. God will ultimately judge each person's life decisions but we are indeed supposed to make sure that a ministry has not become based in earthly desires rather than the desires of the heavenlies and being like Jesus. We should all strive for that.

Ministries are open and keep each other accountable for one another in a humble and open way. My experience was of a cult of secrets and rules and isolation run by a dictatorship of management of one person and a second in command as a spy. It is that simple. There are ten "rules" their own ten commandments if you will not to mention the unwritten rules they make up as they go along if they decide your not good enough to work for them. And remember, these are all volunteers noone gets paid. Carman has his staff for free and they are still persecuted for giving of their time.

My suggestion is for you all to make your own conclusions about this man and his real intentions. There is a book called "Toxic Faith" I recommend that you read it. If the questions in this book come back with a "yes" answer regarding Carman's ministry then you will probably reach the conclusion that most have. He has lost his way and put his image above God and fits in almost every way the category of being a cult. God has removed his gift of his voice. The bible states that if you do not use or if you abuse the gift He has given you He will remove it. The choice must come from your own heart about how your interpret the motives os this man.

3:17 PM  
Blogger TellingTheTruth said...

Patience, if what you have said is correct, then the body of Christ really needs to fervently pray for Carman and his ministry. If we don't, who else will? Jesus commanded us to love one another as He has loved us. This includes loving our enemies. How can we not be good Samaritans? This sounds like major spiritual warfare within Carman's ministry. Yet, the Bible says, "Greater is He who is in me than he who is in the world". Jesus has overcome the world. Therefore, those of us who have Christ in us have the power to fight against the devil and his demons, and WIN. I started praying for Carman a couple of months ago, after I read this blog. He truly needs our prayers. Life and death is in the power of the tongue. We all will be judged someday for what we have said in this life here on earth. We need to speak life into Carman and his ministry, that the power of Christ's Resurrection will be evident and shining brightly like a lighthouse beacon. I urge all of you reading this blog to lift up Carman and his ministry in unceasing prayer for deliverance, upright living, and a fresh fire from the Holy Spirit to seek the Almighty Lord God with all their hearts, souls, minds, and strengths.

12:20 AM  
Blogger Patience Philips said...

To: TellingTheTruth - Yes I do pray for them daily. I did when I worked with them and even more fervently now that I have seen the inner workings of the ministry. I don't want to see anyone fall from God's grace and if only the touch of the Lord could truly reach them then they will have peace in their lives and hearts instead of the underlying negative feelings that are in their heart right now. I hope every one will join me in praying that the heavy veil that is over their eyes and heart be lifted so that they can find truth and peace.

1:15 PM  
Blogger Veloci said...

ellingtheTruth: You are Carman, or one of his culties, yet again. LOL. And you accuse others of multiple blogger names? Your intense charisma at the start of your 'ministry' should have been a dire warning to people. Too bad so many of us are reaching ega discernment levels late in the game or it would have been game over for you a while ago. As for people saying Carman lost his voice: Egads people, the man never had a good voice. It was passable, now it's shot. Pray for him? No way. Parable of the wheat and the tares tells me he's a tare and no amount of prayer can help such. Pray for more discernment so you;re not fooled again. This may require you leaving your current 'churchianity' building and fellowshipping alone with the Spirit and the Word. But at least you'll be less subject to deception. Most pulpit guys now are total fakes. Money money money money!!!!

5:29 PM  
Blogger Veloci said...

Meant 'mega discernment'

5:31 PM  
Blogger TellingTheTruth said...

Dear Misguided Veloci: It appears that you need mega discernment. By the way, I never accused anyone of multiple blogger names. You still sound like a baby Christian to me. A more mature Christian would understand the power of God and His ability to change people through the power of prayer. If you think that God is not powerful enough to change Carman, then you do not know God. Perhaps you need to spend more time in God's Word and fellowship alone with Him so you will be guided by His Holy Spirit instead of the critical one that you have now. I'm sorry if I have offended you, but sometimes the truth hurts.

You should know by now that I am neither Carman, nor what you are calling "one of his culties". I saw Carman for the first time at a Christian music festival many years ago and really enjoyed his concert but did not become a follower of Carman. Last year I saw him host TBN's "Praise The Lord" program and thought he did a great job as host. A friend of mine was trying to locate one of Carman's older albums. As I was helping him with the search, I came across this blog. At first I was shocked, dismayed, and disgusted by the vicious attacks being made against him, but you can't always believe what you read. So, I did some research and it appeared that a number of the comments could very well be true. However, Jesus COMMANDED us to love one another as He has loved us.

Based on my limited knowledge of Carman, I believe that Carman was "Born Again" back in the 80's. He was seriously attacking the devil as a baby Christian and it may be payback time. The devil has had thousands of years of experience in lying in wait for the right moment to attack God's children. He must be very angry with Carman for all the good that has come out of Carman's ministry over the years. Carman still does have a lot of talent and I believe that his popularity early in his ministry could have puffed up his ego. He might be feeling that he's losing some of that talent and popularity as he ages, but he is still very professional on stage. He knows how to engage the audience with his music, and people love that. It feels more like church when people can sing in the audience. And, yes, Carman can still sing. Okay, so he's not a Josh Groban, but he can still sing.

Some people in ministry will do all the right things in ministry, but if they have not completely submitted to God, they are not as effective. Only God knows Carman's heart. It's not for anyone to judge. But God wants us to pray for one another to encourage one another and to lift up those who have fallen or have lost their way. Carman really needs our prayers. God's not finished with him yet or else Carman would have died in that near fatal car accident last year. Angels were definitely watching over him that day. Anyone else would have been killed.

I believe that Carman is under some major spiritual attacks. The devil targets the Christian leaders, thinking that if he can destroy the leader, he can take down the whole ministry and all the followers. That's why we all need to earnestly pray for Carman for divine protection, and to get right with God and completely submit to Him. Please join me in that prayer.

12:19 AM  
Blogger Veloci said...

Contrary to to your belief, I am a well seasoned Christian warrior and knew the man personally. Look at it this way: Maybe the Lord Jesus Christ was warning the man with the car crash. Maybe he was saved back then. However, he has refused to repent. Maybe he will now. No man should have 'followers'. That right is Christ's and Christ's alone. That 'follower' thing right there is the problem with Carman, from your own keyboard. Capische? And you sound just like a follower!

2:28 PM  
Blogger Veloci said...

How naive to think that the devil doesn't also protect his 'followers' from harm.....for awhile. I am curious as to who "Michelle" is and why no one jumps on her comments, that are way more audacious than mine. Any clue? No clue? You seem clueless as usual, and yes, I think you're Carman. If so, learn something from the car accident!

2:31 PM  
Blogger Veloci said...

Also, last comment. By your own admission you have 'limited knowledge' of Carman. So why the big defense? If I know very little about a subject I refrain from commenting, period, until I do my homework. So you saw him on TBN, big deal. This schtick is really getting old already. The man is not credible based on the Bible tenets of 'How To Spot The Real Thing'. You seem to defy the teaachings of Christ about false ministers, etc. They are out there and are very adept at deception. End of story. No need to goad me, I'm done here.

2:38 PM  
Blogger Veloci said...

Sorry, I lied. I must say: I looked up the alleged car crash. It was not reported by one single legitimate news agency, period. It was reported by Carman on Facebook and on two other links that are totally subjective and not news links at all. Hmmmm. This is not the first time he's cried about his health and injuries to garner sympathy and support. Also, I don't believe any Houston churches will host him, but I have no facts on that. Actually, I don't care and will cease and desist from wasting any further time and effort on this ridiculous subject. Toodle-ooo!

2:52 PM  
Blogger TellingTheTruth said...

To Veloci: No, I am not Carman and no, I don't consider myself to be a follower of him because I don't believe in that either. However, I have been researching this to determine what is fact and what is fiction.

I had considered joining the Mobile Ministry Club since I feel a calling to the music ministry, but haven't decided as of yet because of all the negative comments on this blog. On the other hand, there were some very positive and constructive comments made on Carman's Facebook page recently regarding a daily devotional with a timely message of hope, someone loving the words on his Power of Praise CD and listening to it over and over again, a powerful message he delivered at a concert regarding the difference between innocence and virtue (ref. Proverbs 31), someone who was happy with her product order including an AIDS dilemma booklet, someone saying how a number of them respect Carman for his testimony and courage to say that he will live like the morals scriptures teach you to live, and some other positive comments.

Perhaps God is working on Carman to change. Words are powerful. So, if he is making a statement that he will live uprightly, that's a good thing. I'm sure he's not there yet because none of us are there yet. None of us are perfect and nobody has lived a perfect Christian life except Jesus. Christians need to strive to live uprightly but we can't do it in our own strength. We need God's help.

The reason for the big defense is because it really bothers me when people with their holier than thou attitudes attack people in ministry instead of lifting them up and praying for them. Being a seasoned Christian warrior as you call yourself, you should know that a leader in ministry will have to endure many more attacks from his enemies than the average Christian. If the devil can bring down the leader, he can bring down the ministry. There are so many vicious attacks against Carman on this blog. The evil against him is so apparent.

As far as limited knowledge about Carman, that applies to everyone, including Carman. Only God knows his heart and only God can do a mighty work in Carman to change him into the man that God wants him to be. Jesus died for all, including any false teachers. And yes, Jesus did warn us about the false teachers, but He still loves them and died for them. He wished that none would perish. If Carman has lost his way and has become a false teacher, God can surely restore him. That's why we need to pray for Carman. Jesus said to remove the log in your own eye before pointing out the spec in someone else's eye.

Veloci, I'm addressing you because you attacked me on this blog. However, what I don't appreciate are the childish (as opposed to child-like) attitudes on this blog, including yours. A so-called seasoned Christian warrior would not behave that way. Christians are to love one another, pray for one another, and lift up the fallen. I cannot stress enough the need for everyone to pray for God to do a mighty work in Carman, and to make him into the man God intended him to be.

12:32 AM  
Blogger Veloci said...

Ummm, sir, you started up with me, seems like. I don;t see where I attacked you. To people like you, the truth itself is an attack.And, a man who is leading a double life and fooling a lot of people, well, can't say where the devil can be blamed for an 'attack' on such a person. The person is bringing their own woes on to themself. So convenient to blame the devil; Carman has been using this ploy for YEARS. The devil attacked Jesus for HIS RIGHTEOUSNESS, ahem. Don't kid yourself: Some of us a are lving the Christian life the right way and suffering for it with legitinate assualts from the enemy camp. When a man is brought down for being 'busted', it's that man's fault, as in the case of Carman. Many people on here have expressed dsigust with the man because they have seen the truth. You need prayer, sounds like. Carman is now talking out of another side of his mouth because he has in fact been exposed. Bet if this had not happened, he would not be doing this. Really, buzz off unless you have something intelligent to say. We all know Carman blogs in his own defense under false names and has been doing so for years. I notice you made no mention of my point that his 'car accident' was not reported anywhere by any news source. He likely put up the links himself and they are not legitimate news links. Far as I know, the door to Houston's churches has been clapped shut on him and he shows no appearances on is 'schedule' anywhere near Houston. Now take up your lost cause and take on, for example, Michelle, who has said some really strong things. Why pick on me? I WILL NOT ENGAGE YOU AGAIN so save your hot air and pick someone else on this blog to go after.

5:11 PM  
Blogger Veloci said...

Please excuse misspellings and typos. Again, go after someone else. Your username tells me exactly who you are. You always insert the word 'truth' into all your usernames in the last two years on blogs where many people have been disgusted with you. Take a hike, you're very obvious already.

5:15 PM  
Blogger Veloci said...

@ 'Patience Phillips' (another bogus screen name of a follower): I think the Body of Christ has bigger concerns right now than worrying about Carman, per se. Myself, I feel no compunction to lift a prayer for this man. Let his followers pray. I follow Jesus, period. Who does Carman pray for, LOL? Also, how did Susan Throop get all her postings deleted? Nice trick. I also thought 'she' was Carman or from his camp. You all make me laugh. I was on WWOC looking at the thousand plus postings and really had an extremely good time laughing at the posts. Weird World of Carman, a real hoot of a read.

5:25 PM  
Blogger TellingTheTruth said...

To Veloci: If you cannot see where or how you attacked me the first time you addressed me, then you haven't a clue of how your strong accusing and assuming words affect the people you address. Plus, you are falsely accusing me of being Carman. I'm not him. I've already told you that. If you had a discerning spirit you would have known that by now.

How can you say that you "are living the Christian life the right way and suffering for it with legitimate assaults from the enemy camp"? No Christian could be so bold as to make a statement like that. One can only boast in the Lord. You speak like the Pharisee, thanking God that he is not like the sinner. As the Bible says, "You honor me with your lips, but your hearts are far from me". Your very words condemn you. Plus, you say that you follow Jesus, yet you are ignoring the great command Jesus gave us, to love one another as He has loved us. How can you continue to knock Carman, and not forgive him and pray for him? A real Christian, filled with the Holy Spirit, would pray for Carman. Only someone with an evil and critical or prideful spirit could viciously attack him and refuse to pray for him. God is not a respecter of persons. He loves us all. But He is a just God. If you will not forgive people who have hurt or offended you, God will not forgive you. You cannot pick and choose what you want from the Bible and ignore the rest.

I hadn't mentioned the car accident because I didn't have time to further look into it, and frankly, I didn't think it mattered that much. Not all accidents are reported by newspapers. I once witnessed a bad accident outside my workplace on a busy stretch of highway. One vehicle flipped over. An elderly man and his dog were trapped inside. There were emergency vehicles galore on the scene. Traffic was backed up in both directions through rush hour. They were there for hours. Nothing was reported in any of the newspapers. No news stories about the accident were reported on the radio stations either. News reporters are given their assignments. If you're not on their list, no one knows about you.

By the way, when you were on Carman's website, I'm surprised that you didn't add a Facebook post. You certainly have a lot to say on this blog. And, I agree that the Body of Christ has bigger concerns than to bash Carman. We need to lift him up in prayer so he may continue to do the work that God has called him to do. Whether you want to believe it or not, Carman IS doing God's work, no matter what other issues may get in the way. We need to pray that he will always be a good Christian witness and will become the man God wants him to be so many more will be won to Christ. I will be praying for you too, Veloci, and anyone else who feels the need to attack a man of God. I hope and pray that you will obtain a deep understanding of the love of Jesus so you can join me in prayer for Carman.

1:11 AM  
Blogger Veloci said...

Now you are using Carman's favorite "NO CLUE" phrase in your post, LOL. Busted. You think people are stupid. I don't hate Carman at all. I just think he's a fake and it's my choice who I pray for. If I feel nothing from the Lord to pray for the man, I won't.
You are trying to force people to pray for this man. What's up with that? He can pray for himself which at this point I think he needs to do. This would be actually facing himself in front of the Lord and taking sole responsibility for his situation. Asking a zillion people to pray for a man who won't go before the Lord for himself is POINTLESS.
Again, why aren't you calling out Michelle and others who on here who have really bashed him/you, and just continue to stand on my lawn?
Well buddy, as far as God loving everybody, see this: JACOB I LOVED, ESAU I HATED. He actually does not love everybody and if you study the OT and NT a bit more closely, you would understand that.

Man of God? Really now. This title is something very few people qualify for these days. You can argue with me until you're blue in the face but I know who you are and what you are.
Work out YOUR OWN SALVATION (if you BE saved) WITH FEAR AND TREMBLING and quit the 'everybody pray for me' routine. Very old hat already.
I don't solicit prayer from people. Please do not pray for me because as I type I am intreating Israel's God to not hear you.
Actually I am very choosy as to who I would even ask prayer from, knowing how many wolves are out there. Who knows who they are praying to, lol? Now go back to your little fantasy world because frankly, I have business with Jack Denova and am going out of town forever,
Hasta la Pasta! If you keep writing back, you'll be reaching ....thin air. Since you've been hot air for years, thin air might be a relief?

11:44 AM  
Blogger Veloci said...

PS...as per normal, you twist things, I said the Body of Christ has bigger concerns than worrying about Carman. Carman needs to worry about Carman and stop involving this nebulous big prayer circle. As for bashing him, I see it differently. I see it as exposing someone who already baked his own cookies.
Also, I asked numerous real believers if they have even heard of this man. None of them have. Do you think I could, were I so inclined, be able to enlist these folks to 'pray for Carman'? Why the incessant need to ask all and sundry for prayer, Carman?
If you are a saved man, and even if you are not, it's between YOU AND GOD NOW. Always has been, but you like to involve people who don't want to be involved in something you need to do for YOURSELF.

Get on Michelle for awhile, she has really said some hot stuff and pegged you HARD. Whoever that blogger is has you figured out very well. And Michelle is not ME. For real. For ever. LOL.

12:17 PM  
Blogger Savy Mommy said...

I really hope you have gotten over your obsession by now. Reading all these things you wrote about Carman is ... Well, quite pathetic. IF you in fact had a relationship with him (which I suspect you didn't) and it was over 20 years ago... It is definitely time to move on. Carman is from NJ. I'm from Long Island, NY. Years back when I was a little girl a friend of my mother's met him at a concert here in NY and began courting him. They were in a relationship for close to a year. (Yes, I met him a couple times during that time.) They ended their relationship because after a lot of prayer they didn't believe they should stay together. She says to this day, she wishes him well. BUT nothing came of it. However, he didn't "break her heart" and was never "fickle."

You saying "I hope he reads this" or "I never got a response, he's a meanie" is just so childish. It was 20 something years ago (IF it ever happened)... It sounds to me like you all ARE indeed obsessed fans that never got the attention you wanted. Maybe he has changed over the years. I don't follow his ministry anymore because my taste changed AND I left the church. However, one thing is certain. You all make me laugh. Because in one part of your comments you "pray" for Carman but you spend the rest of your time bashing him and gossiping. It's disgusting. And one of the main reasons why I can't stand "church." If he needs prayer. Than pray for him and stay off the Internet saying all these things about him. Whether they are true or not, isn't the point. The point is, YOU are a "Christian." So act like Christ, and extend grace. Before trying to remove the speck from your brother's eye, remove the plank from your own. You should all be ashamed of yourselves. Pathetic. And ridiculous.

7:51 PM  
Blogger Savy Mommy said...

Just to clarify. They were in a long distance relationship for the most part. But there was a huge effort put in on his part to make the relationship work. My mother's friend has been married now for 10 years to a wonderful man. It's time you move on from this too. Since this was posted years ago. I hope you have and are fulfilled now in every way God bless you.

7:55 PM  
Blogger Enough Said said...

Carman your posting as Savy Mom and we all know you are done. These posts make no sense. Stick with ring tones and pony phones and white shark loans, and FB where you can cull new victims. You made bad choices when you had a chance to do right now whhhhhhhhaaaaa why is everybody pickin' on poor widdle Carman? That chick you think is obsessed probably married a nice doctor. As for your appearances, LOL, everyone sleeps thru them, the few who do come. No one is getting dolled up to come in bride dresses with prophecies from God about being your wife, no one is barely coming anymore to see you, period. Please do the world a favor and shine it on.

12:00 PM  
Blogger CHARLENE DEBELO said...

WHOA! YOU PHARISEES, YOU HYPOCRITES, YOU WITHOUT SIN LET HIM OR HER CAST THE FIRST STONE. YOU SHOULD WORRY ABOUT YOUR OWN LIFE, AND NOT BE A BUSY-BODY IN EVERYONE ELSES, IF YOU WERE HURT IN ANYWAY, GIVE IT TO GOD, YOUR BURDENS ARE HEAVY, HIS BURDENS ARE LIGHT. DON'T LET ANYTHING KEEP YOU FROM GOD. REPENT AND LET EVERYONE ELSE WORRY ABOUT THEMSELVE. PEOPLE GET OVER IT, WE HAVE TO MOVE ON AND SERVE GOD!!! THAT IS ALL THAT SHOULD MATTER.

2:15 PM  
Blogger Perry Fillion said...

I think you're psycho and need to move on but I also think Carmen's a tool, and not in a good way. He's been a narcissistic tool for quite sometime. I wouldn't attend his concert even if it was free

7:11 AM  
Blogger CHARLENE DEBELO said...

I am sorry you feel that way, because personally and not in a mean way, but, I really do not care what you think about me. The bible says,"Do not put you eyes on man, he will fail you every time. Keep you eyes on things above." You are not his Judge, the bible says," Judge not, lest you be Judge." It is a shame how if we let it these evil spirits like, LUST, JEALOUSY, ANGER, AND ETC...If you let them in could destroy your life. No one is perfect, but that is what we are striving for. Give you problems to God, He will solve and take care of each and every one of them. Love you In Jesus's Name, Amen and Amen.

11:13 AM  
Blogger BAHAR HART said...

Just so everyone knows including you Andrea & I don't know where you got your info from about Carman being married however he is "NOT" & has never been married!! Andrea you need to think about things you say because if you were part of his ministry the understand that there is a thing called "CONFIDENTIALIY" what he does in his life & who he does it with is absolutely "NONE OF YOUR BUSINESS" I cannot even believe you called Carman stupid, clearly you are not a believer because you would know what the bible says about judging others & how we are supposed to treat one another & you obviously have no clue what that means. You need to apologize to Carman & ask both him & God for forgiveness.

6:01 PM  
Blogger BAHAR HART said...

Martin: You've never married. Why is that do you think?
Carmen: "The Bible says the single person has time to think about the things of the Lord so for whatever reason that (marriage) has not come into my life yet. So in the meantime I just devote myself totally to Christian service and that's really all I know. You always hope you're coming close to that time when the Lord says, 'Okay, here's the right person.' I don't think it's always about finding the right person. You have to be the right person and I think for my particular life on the path the Lord has for me it required a certain amount of dedication and blind commitment. All the travelling I have done is not necessarily conducive to a strong family life. So I may have saved some poor girl a lot of anguish. But my life has changed a lot now and I don't travel nearly as much and even when I do it would be very easy for me to take a family with me. So maybe things could be changing."

6:08 PM  
Blogger Barbara Harney said...

I'm confused about what to think about Carman now!So much gossip and differing comments. I am posting this on 5/31/2013. Carman says he is suffering from incurable cancer and is raising money through 'Kickstarter' for one last tour and a recording of new songs. As of today the amount is over $300,000!His goal was $200.000. As I read, I see that he has said he was sick before and got a lot of $$$. Is he believable?
I'm beginning to wonder if he's on the level? His FB chronicals this, also a trip to the hospital on 5/30for dehydration. HOW can he plan a big tour if he's so ill? According to records, he's worth $20M, why does he need our money? I am having doubts about his story. Will he suddenly be 'healed'as he is asking all to pray for, along with giving him hard earned cash?
I'm truly wondering if he can be trusted. If anyone is still around this blog, what say you?

1:27 AM  
Blogger nenad muhar said...

I surprisingly stumbled on this blog hoping to confirm some questions that I have about his pictures and his "worldly" marketing campaign, a shirt half buttoned and posing like he is doing an ad for a GQ magazine instead of a Christian Ministry. I know Carmen from PFA in Phoenix, and I am sure that everything written here may be considered gossip, but the imagery that is portrayed of Carmen is definitely not leading me to believe its the Holy Spirit. Anyway, the comments for the FB page are not there, and I dont even think the names match, the link is for Keli Miller....so, who knows what is true and what is not. But for my two cents, I just hope he is not lying about his cancer...that would be shameful.

1:20 PM  
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2:33 PM  

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